Re: DALTON MAGNETOMETERS & MAGNETOMETER FLUID [Archive]

scubaman

02-21-2000, 11:33 PM

I don't know much about dalton's mag other than it appears to be a

pretty basic unit. When I was first interested in buying a mag, I

was looking into land based units. I too ordered Dalton's info pak

and book. I found the book a bit difficult to understand mostly

because of his writing style which I believe is suppose to include

some dry humor. I didn't respond to it well and don't really care

for it. I then got on some of the treasure forums and asked other's

about their opinions of his unit and heard nothing good about it. I

do have a book on Padre Island treasure hunting where his unit is

recommended mainly because of the low cost though. Fortunately

before I had to make a decision I came across a heck of a deal on a

Geometrics G-856 proton mag and bought it. I agree with Dan, do a

lot of checking around before turning loose of the cash. From what I

can see, his unit looks to be somewhere close to the equivalent to

Phil Barnes' kit which can be had for a lot less. In comparison to

JWFishers unit that Dan is talking about it appears Dalton's mag is

a dual differential unit which is good compared to the single sensor

the JWFishers unit employs, however the Fishers unit has other

features I would rather have over Dalton's unit. Fisher's is a

pretty common mag where like Pat, I have never heard from anyone who

has used a Dalton mag in the field. Good luck to you.

Charles

> The Proton Mag Forum

>

> Dale,

>

> I spoke to an engineer at Geometrics before I bought a used Geometrics

> mag. During that conversation, he told me that the best liquid was

> "Wizard" charcoal lighter. I think this was mentioned in a much earlier

> post by me.

>

> Dalton is an interesting individual as I'm sure anyone that speaks to

> him will agree. However, if you have any conversations with anyone else

> in the business of manufacturing mags, they all laugh at his mag. I

> should note that Dalton feels the same about the other mags on the

> market.

>

> The low end mags out there are Dalton's and Fishers mags. Dalton's

> being the least expensive. Then there are the high end mags that are

> used by oil and mining companies. The prices on these units usually

> begin at $20k.

>

> There must be a difference in the low end to high end mags or there

> would not be a market for them.

>

> If I were you, and before I invested in one of the low end mags, I would

> not buy one until I spoke to a couple of people that own and have

> successfully used them. It is not uncommon to see a used Fisher unit on

> the market. I have yet to see one of Dalton's units, but doubt that he

> has sold as many of them.

>

> You might take a look at Jim Koehler's site

> (http://www.diamondjim.bc.ca/ppm.htm) and look over what he has done.

> Jim has been kind enough to share all of his work by placing it on his

> web page. Once you download the files, you will get an idea just on how

> much time Jim has put into this. I do not think that this is a project

> for the electronically disadvantaged (like me), unless you find someone

> to help you. Jim's plans sound like they will fir your needs, where I

> would likely have to make some adaptations to use it for finding sunken

> wrecks. If you do not have an electronic background, you might have to

> do what I have done ... ask your friends for help, or ask them if they

> know anyone that has an electronics background that may be able to help

> you build one. It would be much less expensive and you would learn

> something in the process. If you read Jim's material, he will supply

> some of the components needed at a very, very reasonable price (cheap).

>

> In Jim's most recent e-mail he had mentioned that he updated changes he

> has made. Maybe he could let us know how his unit is performing. Jim,

> do you have an idea on approximately how much you unit would cost to

> build?

>

> Take care,

>

> Patrick

>

>

>

> Dale Seppa wrote:

>

> > The Proton Mag ForumFirstly, I am this list almost under false

> > pretenses because reading the messages it is obvious that everybody

> > else here knows 100 to 1000 times more than me. Please bear with me.

> > Eventually I should learn enough to at least blend in. Dalton states

> > in his literature that he uses water (distilled) as it is the most

> > desirable proton liquid. That info is right in front of me as I type

> > so I AM sure of it. I think I also read there someplace that he sells

> > a special heater so his unit can be used at sub-zero operation. It

> > all seemed to make sense to me. But would appreciate any comments. I

> > am interested in comments from anyone who has used the Dalton units

> > because I simply do not have the knowledge to build one. IF I decide

> > to buy a Dalton, he will give me some instruction and based on what I

> > have read it looks like even someone with my limited knowledge will be

> > able to get fair results with a short learning curve. As I write this

> > I only have his $3.00 info packet, but it impressed me enough that I

> > just sent the money to get his book and the UofAK phamplet about

> > prospecting for magnetic black sand with a magnetometer. Any an all

> > comments, advice etc., would be very welcome. I will try to read all

> > of the past postings as well as other info that I have to see if I can

> > get up to speed enough so you guys don't laugh me off of the

> > list. Thanks to all for your past efforts which make very interesting

> > reading. Hope to get to know some of you over the net if not

> > possible to ever meet in person. I am VERY interested in using mags,

> > metal detectors, etc., as prospecting tools for sulfides, oxides,

> > placer gold, etc. If anyone shares these rather narrow interests

> > please drop me an email. Best regards, Dale (The name is male in

> > case any of you, as am I, are from the Dale Evans era which

> > interjected so much confusion for guys names Dale) seppa@rangenet.com

> >

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