Mats =?iso-8859-1?Q?Blickstr=F6m?
03-18-2000, 09:38 PM
Hi Dale,
I get back to you this coming week.
Mats is today a name and its used as that, but its probably a shot of
Matheus or similar.
--
I remember when Explorer was a Swedish liquor
/M Blickström
Dale Seppa wrote:
> The Proton Mag Forum
>
> Mats:
>
> (Is that a common name in Sweden or is it a "nickname"? I am
> 1/8 Swedish, rest is Finlander.)
>
> I THINK (not know) that you are making the same mistake I made
> when I got on this forum. My mistake was reading only the
> archives that had titles that SEEMed appropriate. Many of the
> titles are completely inappropriate in relation to the content
> of the posting.
>
> I will give you a partial answer to you question and you will
> probably get a lot more feedback from others which will
> complete the answer particularly after you look at ALL of the
> past archival entries. Once you do that ask all the questions
> you want because there is really a great bunch of guys on this
> forum who, in the aggegate, know EVERYTHING there is to know
> about this subject.
>
> Other than basic electronic information and soldering/assembly
> skills my IMPRESSION is that anyone can build any of the units
> that I show below, although once built, it might require more
> tuning, more learning, more experimentation before you finally
> have it right. DO locate and buy the book from M. L. Dalton
> in Dallas, TX. There is much information there although some
> of it is dated and Mr. Dalton's second career, by my
> perception, is that of a political commentator which he
> sometimes mixes in with the technical literature. I have
> spoken to him a few times and have gone over his literature
> and he is a VERY intelligent man and a TRUE pioneer in this
> field.
>
> For all of these we are looking at under $US300.00 plus of
> course shipping, customs duties, etc. in your case. Couple
> probably far under this.
>
> FATQUARTERS software sells a kit which I believe has two
> fluxgate sensors. I believe this design is from Carl Moreland
> originally.
>
> Phil Barnes has an EXCELLENT CDROM for US$ 29.95 plust
> (presumable) air post to sweden. This includes a design for a
> unit with solenoidal sensors.
>
> Jim Koehler has an excellent, although not fully Beta tested
> yet. In actual fact he is close to a finished document but I
> BELIEVE he will make a few more changes before it is
> finalized. I believe for your proposed use this might be the
> unit you should select, although it may take a bit longer to
> get finished. He now has some initial data for larger liquid
> filled toroidal coils which should be IDEAL for your purposes.
> Unfortunately, these coils will result in a staff (sometimes
> called "beam") which will weight 10 Kilos or more, which is
> too heavy for portable field use, which is what I am
> interested in. Jim has, most graciously, published, on the
> web, his full plans for the unit. You MUST download this. He
> also has a spreadsheet so you can calculate things about
> either solenoidal or toroidal coils. If you have spreadsheet
> knowledge (preferably Excell) You MUST download this also.
>
> Other than Jim's, huge manuscript, the parts, some electronic
> assembly skills, you MUST learn how to make the liquid filled
> toroidal sensors. Assuming you take my suggestions, but wait
> until you see everybody else's ideas first - the larger
> sensors will be what you will use. I will be glad to fill you
> in on details on these. BUT, after making a firm decision to
> go that way, the first thing you will have to do is to GET the
> toroidal forms. In Ireland they use them as floats on
> commercial fishing nets. They are toroids (donuts), about
> 198 mm (8 inches) outside diameter and about 4 7/8 inches on
> the ID and the diameter that forms the toroid "donut" is 1.65
> inches. (If nothing else you will now get a little bit of
> practice converting inches to meters. - If you do convert them
> ACCURATELY, give me the numbers please.) They are made of a
> hard plastic. So far we know of green and gray - but of
> course, the color makes no difference.
>
> If, (after reading the forum, Phil's CD, Jim's document and
> maybe the Dalton literature) you decide that you would like to
> do a proton magnetomer with LARGE toroidal sensors, you have
> to find out if those are available in Sweden. If they are,
> plese let me know, and let me know the price, AND the minimum
> quantitity that you can order. If you cannot find them there
> I will get some for you BUT the problem is that my only source
> I have to make a relatively big order and pay postage from
> Ireland and then of course postage to Sweden. Don't make much
> sense if you can get them there. Still even at that, if they
> cost you 10 or 20 bucks (buck = US dollar) it is not a big
> deal in relation to the total cost and importance of the
> project.
>
> Also, you have a very important expert from sweden on this
> forum and I assume he will eventually get in touch with you.
> You have both given me inferiority complexes as your written
> English is as good if not better than mine.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dale
> --- Original Message -----
> From: "Mats Blickström"
> To: "The Proton Mag Forum"
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:57 AM
> Subject: Help!
>
> > The Proton Mag Forum
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm a scuba divers for Sweden. We do a lot of diving i the
> Baltic see
> > and its full of wrecks.
> > The problem is to find them. Now i wonder if somebody have
> blueprint and
> > schematics of a Uv-mag.
> > I lack the knowledge to design one my self.
> >
> > Regards Mats
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________ ____________
> ________
I get back to you this coming week.
Mats is today a name and its used as that, but its probably a shot of
Matheus or similar.
--
I remember when Explorer was a Swedish liquor
/M Blickström
Dale Seppa wrote:
> The Proton Mag Forum
>
> Mats:
>
> (Is that a common name in Sweden or is it a "nickname"? I am
> 1/8 Swedish, rest is Finlander.)
>
> I THINK (not know) that you are making the same mistake I made
> when I got on this forum. My mistake was reading only the
> archives that had titles that SEEMed appropriate. Many of the
> titles are completely inappropriate in relation to the content
> of the posting.
>
> I will give you a partial answer to you question and you will
> probably get a lot more feedback from others which will
> complete the answer particularly after you look at ALL of the
> past archival entries. Once you do that ask all the questions
> you want because there is really a great bunch of guys on this
> forum who, in the aggegate, know EVERYTHING there is to know
> about this subject.
>
> Other than basic electronic information and soldering/assembly
> skills my IMPRESSION is that anyone can build any of the units
> that I show below, although once built, it might require more
> tuning, more learning, more experimentation before you finally
> have it right. DO locate and buy the book from M. L. Dalton
> in Dallas, TX. There is much information there although some
> of it is dated and Mr. Dalton's second career, by my
> perception, is that of a political commentator which he
> sometimes mixes in with the technical literature. I have
> spoken to him a few times and have gone over his literature
> and he is a VERY intelligent man and a TRUE pioneer in this
> field.
>
> For all of these we are looking at under $US300.00 plus of
> course shipping, customs duties, etc. in your case. Couple
> probably far under this.
>
> FATQUARTERS software sells a kit which I believe has two
> fluxgate sensors. I believe this design is from Carl Moreland
> originally.
>
> Phil Barnes has an EXCELLENT CDROM for US$ 29.95 plust
> (presumable) air post to sweden. This includes a design for a
> unit with solenoidal sensors.
>
> Jim Koehler has an excellent, although not fully Beta tested
> yet. In actual fact he is close to a finished document but I
> BELIEVE he will make a few more changes before it is
> finalized. I believe for your proposed use this might be the
> unit you should select, although it may take a bit longer to
> get finished. He now has some initial data for larger liquid
> filled toroidal coils which should be IDEAL for your purposes.
> Unfortunately, these coils will result in a staff (sometimes
> called "beam") which will weight 10 Kilos or more, which is
> too heavy for portable field use, which is what I am
> interested in. Jim has, most graciously, published, on the
> web, his full plans for the unit. You MUST download this. He
> also has a spreadsheet so you can calculate things about
> either solenoidal or toroidal coils. If you have spreadsheet
> knowledge (preferably Excell) You MUST download this also.
>
> Other than Jim's, huge manuscript, the parts, some electronic
> assembly skills, you MUST learn how to make the liquid filled
> toroidal sensors. Assuming you take my suggestions, but wait
> until you see everybody else's ideas first - the larger
> sensors will be what you will use. I will be glad to fill you
> in on details on these. BUT, after making a firm decision to
> go that way, the first thing you will have to do is to GET the
> toroidal forms. In Ireland they use them as floats on
> commercial fishing nets. They are toroids (donuts), about
> 198 mm (8 inches) outside diameter and about 4 7/8 inches on
> the ID and the diameter that forms the toroid "donut" is 1.65
> inches. (If nothing else you will now get a little bit of
> practice converting inches to meters. - If you do convert them
> ACCURATELY, give me the numbers please.) They are made of a
> hard plastic. So far we know of green and gray - but of
> course, the color makes no difference.
>
> If, (after reading the forum, Phil's CD, Jim's document and
> maybe the Dalton literature) you decide that you would like to
> do a proton magnetomer with LARGE toroidal sensors, you have
> to find out if those are available in Sweden. If they are,
> plese let me know, and let me know the price, AND the minimum
> quantitity that you can order. If you cannot find them there
> I will get some for you BUT the problem is that my only source
> I have to make a relatively big order and pay postage from
> Ireland and then of course postage to Sweden. Don't make much
> sense if you can get them there. Still even at that, if they
> cost you 10 or 20 bucks (buck = US dollar) it is not a big
> deal in relation to the total cost and importance of the
> project.
>
> Also, you have a very important expert from sweden on this
> forum and I assume he will eventually get in touch with you.
> You have both given me inferiority complexes as your written
> English is as good if not better than mine.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dale
> --- Original Message -----
> From: "Mats Blickström"
> To: "The Proton Mag Forum"
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:57 AM
> Subject: Help!
>
> > The Proton Mag Forum
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm a scuba divers for Sweden. We do a lot of diving i the
> Baltic see
> > and its full of wrecks.
> > The problem is to find them. Now i wonder if somebody have
> blueprint and
> > schematics of a Uv-mag.
> > I lack the knowledge to design one my self.
> >
> > Regards Mats
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________ ____________
> ________