Beale Codes Solved
salvor6:
A researcher in Clearfield, PA has solved the Beale codes. He went to the vault and found it empty. There is also evidence of a cover-up by the locals to keep the tourism going. I find it amusing that treasure hunters continue to search for something that is not there.
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seldom:
I have been saying for years that if the treasure was real it was found years ago 1985 was when I first heard it had been found :'(
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oRo:
The treasure has not been found, it is still there. :)
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seldom:
oRo what makes you think the treasure is still there. I don't think there ever was a treasure just a scam but if there was a treasure it was much smaller then reported and found sometime in the past. But I am always open to new theories and info. Whill I await a reply I am going to go pull my file on this and maybe we can have a debate of interest to all here.
Seldom
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airwing1:
A man did claim to find the vault a few years back, but it was empty. excavation in the area did turn up shoe buckles and other items dating back to the late 1800's.
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Wyatt Westwood:
From my research on the coding of the TJ Bee Ale papers it's clearly the vault of Thomas Jefferson's Masonic Temple and it may contain the riches he was missing upon his death!
His Monticello mansion is build by the strict standards of freemasons and is truly a work of art. Secret vault chambers and all.
Search it.
The other points of interest is one of his other estates close by.
Search that to.
This is typical freemason language used to formulate the TJ bee ale papers. Parchment and seals were made from Bees Wax. Bees honey was mixed in the Ale to take the bitter taste away and give it a sweet aroma. Thomas Jefferson loved to make his ale at many special locations like in vaults made for it.
I know many who try and discourage others from looking for a particular treasure whether new or old but I say it isn't over till it's over in your own search so keep on looking until you are satisfied for yourself. Don't believe it until you see in with your own eyes.
You say it's found and I say it's not because everyone s looking for the wrong treasure in the wrong place. That is what I found out from my own blood & sweat.
I'll see if I can find my papers from when I decoded the rear side of the TJ bee ale papers and scan it for posting for all of you to see. I have no interest in looking back there unless someone pays me an awful lot for my trouble so what the heck? Besides, I could tell all I know about it and whomever wanted to pursue it would still need me to finish the rest of the cipher from the key I discovered.
I don't remember it all it was long ago but I have my notes somewhere.....
By the way it's good to see you posting Seldom and I know your expertise is as good as people say it is.
Glad your contributing.
Wyatt
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seldom:
Any treasure with so many people involved should have left more info on the finding of the gold. there should be letters diaries etc with some info by others in the group. Many years ago I meet a guy who claimed to have found some letters from a member of the group to his wife. As I never saw the letters all I know is what this man told us. After 6 months of meetings the group I was with walked away. I have often wondered if he was just holding his cards closed to the vest or was a con?????? We never know do we??????
Wyatt like your idea about TJ may give you a call later this week if I can find time to talk more about it.
If nothing else we got some interesting debate going
Seldom
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mudpike:
I have always read where Thomas Jefferson was believed to be a Freemason
but no records have been found to show this to be true. I easily could have
the wrong info, but I would like to see if this fact has been proven.
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Wyatt Westwood:
Mudpike,
The house at Monticello was designed as a freemason lodge would be. Octagon shaped rooms and hidden basement room.
He was very much a freemason and a hell of a man. It would be just like him to write the TJ Beale paper and give clues only another mason would understand. Although I'm not a mason I have studied both ancient Egyptian, Knights Templar, Jewish Caballa and more modern masonry extensively.
It would be a very exciting find to prove this was real. I may just have that proof somewhere. I was saving my findings for a Beale treasure hunter to share it with as most had already thought it was solved so I was looking for one with an open mind to another angle.
If I was closer to the actual location it specifys it may have turned out different. I'm not rich and don't have the time or money to fly back and forth to the east coast on a whim.
Maybe once I figure out one of these Templar vault entrances and open it but for now I'm just like everyone else, penny poor and pound foolish.
To me Thunting is just a hobby until it starts paying the way then I can go after more.
I can't wait until then.
Wyatt
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Wyatt Westwood:
I found some of my notes. This would be the beginning of my decoding of the second page. Note how it was telling the story of Thomas Jeffersons home. This is the result of many days of work on the code.
Here it is:
All are things to state pledge.
All alliances are as of that which they created providence through. The acts I assume are from Monticello.
71, 194, 38, 1701, 89, 76, 11, 83, 1629, 48, 94, 63, 132, 16, 111, 95, 84, 341, 975, 14, 40, 64, 27, 81, 139, 213, 63, 90, 1120, 8, 15, 3, 126, 2018, 40, 74, 758, 485, 604, 230, 436, 664, 582, 150, 251, 284, 308, 231, 124, 211, 486, 225, 401, 370, 11, 101, 305, 139, 189, 17, 33, 88, 208, 193, 145, 1, 94, 73, 416, 918, 263, 28, 500, 538, 356, 117, 136, 219, 27, 176, 130, 10, 460, 25, 485, 18, 436, 65, 84, 200, 283, 118, 320, 138, 36, 416, 280, 15, 71, 224, 961, 44, 16, 401, 39, 88, 61, 304, 12, 21, 24, 283, 134, 92, 63, 246, 486, 682, 7, 219, 184, 360, 780, 18, 64, 463, 474, 131, 160, 79, 73, 440, 95, 18, 64, 581, 34, 69, 128, 367, 460, 17, 81, 12, 103, 820, 62, 116, 97, 103, 862, 70, 60, 1317, 471, 540, 208, 121, 890, 346, 36, 150, 59, 568, 614, 13, 120, 63, 219, 812, 2160, 1780, 99, 35, 18, 21, 136, 872, 15, 28, 170, 88, 4, 30, 44, 112, 18, 147, 436, 195, 320, 37, 122, 113, 6, 140, 8, 120, 305, 42, 58, 461, 44, 106, 301, 13, 408, 680, 93, 86, 116, 530, 82, 568, 9, 102, 38, 416, 89, 71, 216, 728, 965, 818, 2, 38, 121, 195, 14, 326, 148, 234, 18, 55, 131, 234, 361, 824, 5, 81, 623, 48, 961, 19, 26, 33, 10, 1101, 365, 92, 88, 181, 275, 346, 201, 206, 86, 36, 219, 324, 829, 840, 64, 326, 19, 48, 122, 85, 216, 284, 919, 861, 326, 985, 233, 64, 68, 232, 431, 960, 50, 29, 81, 216, 321, 603, 14, 612, 81, 360, 36, 51, 62, 194, 78, 60, 200, 314, 676, 112, 4, 28, 18, 61, 136, 247, 819, 921, 1060, 464, 895, 10, 6, 66, 119, 38, 41, 49, 602, 423, 962, 302, 294, 875, 78, 14, 23, 111, 109, 62, 31, 501, 823, 216, 280, 34, 24, 150, 1000, 162, 286, 19, 21, 17, 340, 19, 242, 31, 86, 234, 140, 607, 115, 33, 191, 67, 104, 86, 52, 88, 16, 80, 121, 67, 95, 122, 216, 548, 96, 11, 201, 77, 364, 218, 65, 667, 890, 236, 154, 211, 10, 98, 34, 119, 56, 216, 119, 71, 218, 1164, 1496, 1817, 51, 39, 210, 36, 3, 19, 540, 232, 22, 141, 617, 84, 290, 80, 46, 207, 411, 150, 29, 38, 46, 172, 85, 194, 39, 261, 543, 897, 624, 18, 212, 416, 127, 931, 19, 4, 63, 96, 12, 101, 418, 16, 140, 230, 460, 538, 19, 27, 88, 612, 1431, 90, 716, 275, 74, 83, 11, 426, 89, 72, 84, 1300, 1706, 814, 221, 132, 40, 102, 34, 868, 975, 1101, 84, 16, 79, 23, 16, 81, 122, 324, 403, 912, 227, 936, 447, 55, 86, 34, 43, 212, 107, 96, 314, 264, 1065, 323, 428, 601, 203, 124, 95, 216, 814, 2906, 654, 820, 2, 301, 112, 176, 213, 71, 87, 96, 202, 35, 10, 2, 41, 17, 84, 221, 736, 820, 214, 11, 60, 760
That is all I had time to finish. It talks of pledges and providence.
Thomas Jefferson
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