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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2006, 01:23:37 pm »
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C.....I don't know about this device as I have never used one.
D.....Your right
E.....I have never used an Omnitron but I have used a knock-off and your wrong
G.....I don't use a single rod so I don't know
H.....Never heard of this device

A....The willow switch my Mom used was not controled by Ideomotor Response.

It's simple to disprove your Ideomortor Response theory. Some people can train the mind to ignore it and some can't. All it takes is two coat hangers ( made into L-rods ), 5 bucks in lumber and copper tubing and a coin.

I used an old peice of molding that measured 1 1/4" x 3/8". I measure the length of my rods, added 1/2" and another 3". I then cut 4 peices that length. I clamped them so I could drill them all at the same time. I drilled holes 1/2" from each end and one in the center. I then found some copper tubing that was loose on the handles but not to loose. I cut one piece 7 3/4" long and the other 8 1/4 ". I marked two pieces of the molding 1 1/2" from each end. I used 1/4" bolts to hold the tubing on the 1 1/2" marks. I then marked the other pieces and put them on the tubing leaving the short tubing 1/4" and the long tubing 3/4" above the molding. Make sure the tubing is square to the frame and tighten the bolts

Now you throw a coin on the floor. Put your heel on the coin while holding the L-rods. Did they cross because of the Ideomotor Response or some other reason? Now put the rods in the frame. Move your hands anyway you want to. The rods will not cross. Now step on the coin. If the rods cross it was not because of Ideomotor Response. If they didn't cross all you have to do is to clear your mind and practice until they will cross every time....Art

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2006, 02:03:34 pm »
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I must say this is only my beleif not scientific fact, OK. Frequencies for the whole purpose of treasure hunting is a bunch of hog wash! If there is a frequency it will come from the earth and it will be more powerful than any black Box. There is some kind of hook up from the rods to targets but no one understand what it is, thank God!  BP

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2006, 02:21:16 pm »
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A....The willow switch my Mom used was not controled by Ideomotor Response.


You are one very confused fella.

Art, you may as well paint a big red target on your chest (and your billfold) 'cause you are a perfect example of the people who the LRL scam artists just love.

End Of Discussion  :Smiley

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2006, 02:26:13 pm »
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Hi Bill, as Tim Williams said to me, there is much to be learned about what is around us and I agree with him. Only God knows about what he created. CU later and take care.

John Tomlinson, CET

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2006, 03:00:56 pm »
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If there is a frequency it will come from the earth and it will be more powerful than any black Box. There is some kind of hook up from the rods to targets but no one understand what it is, thank God! BP

I agree with that statement 100%. It is a proven fact that each element has it's own Frequency and it will hook up with a Dowsing Rod. I am also saying that a man made Frequency can hook up to the element and cause the rods to react the same.

Chris.....Sorry I put a big hole in your believe system but you guys always want prove. There it is...Art

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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2006, 03:11:06 pm »
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Chris.....Sorry I put a big hole in your believe system but you guys always want prove. There it is...Art


You didn't put a big hole in anything.  I don't have a belief system.  LRLers have "belief systems".  I have clear-cut (already proven) science and logic on my side.

You didn't prove anything either.

Not in all the years this type of discussion has taken place, or all the years that it will continue to take place, have you or any other user (or seller) provided a single shred of validated evidence for your pipe dream and Wish Science.

Sorry....    Wink


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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2006, 08:15:30 pm »
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Gee Chris....Today I have provided two simple tests that are almost free. They are so simple and will provide information to you. I also can say that the information coming from you is just a rewrite or word for word from 2 web sites So give us some places to look for experiments that will prove your theories...Art

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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2006, 02:57:22 am »
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Gee Chris....Today I have provided two simple tests that are almost free. They are so simple and will provide information to you. I also can say that the information coming from you is just a rewrite or word for word from 2 web sites So give us some places to look for experiments that will prove your theories...Art


I don't have any theories; my information is based on axioms.  There is a big difference.

Probably the reason my facts look like they have been published before is because they are based on ordinary (already proven) science and physics.  There must be millions and millions of folks who are familiar with the same axioms.

Did you finish high school?  Go to the library and get any high school science book, and spend a little time actually reading it.

However, I predict you'll not get much out of it... or you will ignore the facts.  Once a person has been confounded by the ideomotor effect (as you are) they will seek only those "wish science" reasons that support their idea of what is going on.

I really don't think I have anything else to say to you.  

The following link pretty much sums up where you are... I'm sorry for you.

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2006, 08:27:43 am »
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Chris, the article you posted appears to be the angry emotional rantings of a person with a sick twisted mind.
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I'll pass  your comments along to Mr. Randi, and let you know what his response is.


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Hey Chris...I checked Randi's Web site like you wanted me to....Where can I find the axioms you speak about?...Art

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