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« on: December 13, 2010, 09:05:29 pm »
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I did some reading on what I would call long range readers and black boxes that do wonders. Another word for that would be Majic. I apologize for not having a link.

It seems someone figured out a way to get a picture using the ear plug on a detector.

Someone here said the next new scam would be a computer program.

So it got me to thinking how much you could hook up to a detector, weight issues being ignored. A GPS, Camera, lets get rid of wires and go IR to the devices, not detector. We have ipads and blackberrys.

The problem is a computer program, memory, weight, and how you see a magnetic field. I wont go into my thoughts.

So what is electricity.



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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 09:35:21 pm »
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Electricity is:

The forced Flow of Electrons from One Atom to the Next.

Usually on the outer Valence Bond.

This can be done with Electro Motive Forces , Chemical Stripping, Magnetics and Photovoltaic.



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Ill accept that. Electrons are atomic particles, am I correct?

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 10:04:51 pm »
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Yep!   Here you go.

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I like that. Two electrons in that picture, its positively charged. Good pic. Im not in a alternate universe.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 10:16:48 pm »
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That Atom is Not Positive.


It is complete.


Two Electrons

Two Protons

No Charge.

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Cant fool you, wish I had stayed in school. Im trying to understand the flow of energy in modern day metal detectors coils. My coil detects both above and below the coil. I also get false signals when aroung big iron or steel. Am I confusing the magnetic field of a coil, with the flow of electricity?

Jump ahead to being able to see the magnetic field. Why big steel two feet away sets off detector?

I read an article on a tesero how it gets it tone. Pretty sure this is simular in all detectors.

There are guys buying and tuning coils to thier garrets, working with adjustments inside the detector, to match the coil to the detctor.

PL detectors use a pulse.

Two box machines use two or more types of coil operation.

Some detectors can hook up to your laptop.

I could easily save and buy an advanced detectror.

Im wondering if anyone on here has tried to map a coil going over a target and have it outputed as a image. Instead of reading a dime on the read out, you get a outline of the target(aluminum can).

Got some ideas, but nothing practicle yet.

Not asking anyone to confirm my delusions, just good science.

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2010, 12:06:41 am »
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Cant fool you, wish I had stayed in school. Im trying to understand the flow of energy in modern day metal detectors coils. My coil detects both above and below the coil. I also get false signals when aroung big iron or steel. Am I confusing the magnetic field of a coil, with the flow of electricity?

Jump ahead to being able to see the magnetic field. Why big steel two feet away sets off detector?

Because it's metal and is being Detected?

I read an article on a tesero how it gets it tone. Pretty sure this is simular in all detectors.
 
Huh??   Not sure what your saying here.

There are guys buying and tuning coils to thier garrets, working with adjustments inside the detector, to match the coil to the detctor.

They Call it Tuning or Peaking.

PL detectors use a pulse.

If your talking about a PI detector, Yes!

Two box machines use two or more types of coil operation.

Two Box uses the TR mode in most cases.  Transmit and Receive.   One Tx coil and One Rx coil.

Some detectors can hook up to your laptop.

I could easily save and buy an advanced detectror.

Im wondering if anyone on here has tried to map a coil going over a target and have it outputed as a image. Instead of reading a dime on the read out, you get a outline of the target(aluminum can).

No Images that I Know of but you can see the Feild Responce and take a guess.

Got some ideas, but nothing practicle yet.

Not asking anyone to confirm my delusions, just good science.
 
  


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Thanks for the input homefire. I dont go to in depth of what Im thinking my verbage is horrible. I cant communicate the science cause I dont know it.

The end result of all this nonsense will be me attempting to build a pull behind coil for meteorite and possibly other stuff.

What materials are best. What depth I want to go. Where Im gong to search. I have read some on here. I dont go into the science, but should probably produce links if Im going to do any posting on here.

It would be nice to put together formulas, plans, materials list, and a how to for guys like myself to dink around with.

Tweaking, tuning, and modifying is my middle names. Then I read the manual.

TY for the input I have put the advance search bar to good use tonight, and have some good reference points.

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YI found a good answer to my question about electricity. On a site that that goes in depth, here it is:

Metal Detectors: How They Work?

Metal detectors generally work on the basic principle that, electric current when passes through a coil produces a magnetic field around it. Metal detectors usually consist of an oscillator, which produces alternating current. When alternating electric current passes through the transmit coil present in the metal detector, a magnetic field is produced around it. Now, if an electrically conductive metallic object is present near the coil, then eddy currents will be generated in the object, which will produce another magnetic field around it. Metal detectors contain another coil in its loop, called receiver coil, which can detect the changes in the magnetic field, due to the presence of the metal or the metallic object. The modern day metal detectors usually use one of the three technologies, which are known as VLF or very low frequency, PI or pulse induction and BFO or beat-frequency oscillation. These three technologies are briefly explained below.

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Posted on: December 14, 2010, 02:25:16 AM
Ions, if we could stimulate what was in the ground to help detect it? Found a link explaining my poppycock:

The number of electrons and number of protons in an atom are equal. When an atom loses electrons, ion is formed because the number of protons become greater than the number of electrons
 in that atom. The positive ions are known as cation. In the process of electrolysis, there are two electrodes including cathode and anode. Cathode is negative plate
 and connected to the negative terminal of the battery. Anode is positive plate and connect to the positive terminal of battery. During electrolysis, positive ions moves towards negative plate or cathode. That's why, positive ions are called cation.

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electrolysis, i believe is a way to clean finds also.

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