200-year old champagne bottles under the sea
Luc:
Hi all,
Information find in Reuters agency
Helsinki - A group of divers exploring a shipwreck in the Baltic Sea have found bottles containing what is thought to be the oldest drinkable champagne in the world, made in the late 18th century. "I picked up one champagne bottle just so we could find the age of the wreck, because we didn't find any name or any details that would have told us the name of the ship," diver Christian Ekstrom from Aland told reporters on Saturday.
Ekstrom and his Swedish diving colleagues opened the bottle and tasted the contents.
"It was fantastic... it had a very sweet taste, you could taste oak and it had a very strong tobacco smell. And there were very small bubbles," he said.
Experts said the shape of the bottle showed it was from the late 18th century, and the bottle and its contents have been sent to champagne specialists in France to be analysed.
"We are 98 percent sure that it is Veuve Clicquot champagne and that it was probably (made) between 1772 (the year the business was established) and 1785," Ekstrom said, adding that the cargo vessel was probably sailing to St Petersburg, then the capital of Russia.
He said they had found the wine on their first dive and did not yet know how many bottles the wreck contained or what other cargo it carried.
The current title of the world's oldest champagne is held by Perrier-Jouet, which has two bottles from 1825.
Richard Juhlin, a Swedish champagne specialist, told the newspaper Alandstidningen he believed the champagne was Veuve Cliquot and said that if it was from the late 18th century, it could cost around 500 000 Swedish crowns a bottle.
Because the wreck lies off Aland, an autonomous part of Finland, the local authorities will decide what will be done with the wreck - and the champagne.
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Divers have found champagne believed to be 230-year-old Veuve Clicquot preserved in the cold darkness of the Baltic seabed. The 30 bottles may have been part of a consignment from France's King Louis XVI to Russian Tsar Peter the Great.
Thought to be premium brand Veuve Clicquot, the 30 bottles discovered perfectly preserved at a depth of 55 metres (180 feet) could have been in a consignment sent by France's King Louis XVI to Russian Tsar Peter the Great.
If confirmed, it would be by far the oldest champagne still drinkable in the world, thanks to the ideal conditions of cold and darkness.
"We have contacted (makers) Moet & Chandon and they are 98 percent certain it is Veuve Clicquot," Christian Ekstroem, the head of the diving team, told AFP.
"There is an anchor on the cork and they told me they are the only ones to have used this sign," he added.
The group of seven Swedish divers made their find on July 6 off the Finnish Aaland island, mid-way between Sweden and Finland, near the remains of a sailing vessel.
"Visibility was very bad, hardly a metre," Ekstroem said. "We couldn't find the name of the ship, or the bell, so I brought a bottle up to try to date it."
The hand-made bottle bore no label, while the cork was marked Juclar, from its origin in Andorra.
According to records, Veuve Clicquot was first produced in 1772, but the first bottles were laid down for ten years.
"So it can't be before 1782, and it can't be after 1788-89, when the French Revolution disrupted production," Ekstroem said.
Aaland wine expert Ella Gruessner Cromwell-Morgan, whom Ekstroem asked to taste the find, said it had not lost its fizz and was "absolutely fabulous."
"I still have a glass in my fridge and keep going back every five minutes to take a breath of it. I have to pinch myself to believe it's real," she said.
Cromwell-Morgan described the champagne as dark golden in colour with a very intense aroma.
"There's a lot of tobacco, but also grape and white fruits, oak and mead," she said of the wine's "nose".
As for the taste, "it's really surprising, very sweet but still with some acidity," the expert added, explaining that champagne of that period was much less dry than today and the fermentation process less controllable.
"One strong supposition is that it's part of a consignment sent by King Louis XVI to Tsar Peter the Great," Cromwell-Morgan said. "The makers have a record of a delivery which never reached its destination."
That would make it the oldest drinkable champagne known, easily beating the 1825 Perrier-Jouet tasted by experts in London last year.
Cromwell-Morgan estimated the opening price at auction of each bottle at around half a million Swedish kronor (53,000 euros, 69,000 dollars).
"But if it's really Louis XVI's wine, it could fetch several million," she added.
The remaining bottles, which could number more than the 30 uncovered by the divers, will remain on the seabed for the time being. Their exact location is being kept secret.
Meanwhile local authorities on Aaland will meet Monday to decide who legally owns the contents of the wreck. The archipelago at the mouth of the Gulf of Bothnia belongs to Finland, though it enjoys autonomy from Helsinki and its inhabitants speak Swedish.
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Luc
craig j:
way to go on that find luc great job :o :o :o :o [rider] [rider]
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Luc:
Many thanks Craig
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Sue:
Odd about the references to tobacco in the story, but it's really neat that they've found champagne preserved like that. Those divers, in trying to date the wreck, made a great find. Interesting story. Sue
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Luc:
Thanks Sue
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Poseidon-Jim:
Thanks for posting this read, it was very interesting indeed.
I'll bet the taste of this stuff is very refined & aged!
Ownership?
Well the old saying goes, Salvaged Treasure belongs to the one that finds it, or at least that's what common sense would assume! (But many times common sense isn't weighed rightfully or truthfully by the court)
IMO, these divers own the find totally, and under general Admiralty/Salvage law they should clearly own the find no matter the state or country in my opinion. The sheer consensus of many cases over the years have been shown that when an item has been lost for a (number of years) and has been written off and abandon, that the finders or salvors of such possess rightful ownership, or at least they should. [teach]
Great article & appreciate you posting it. [great]
Jim
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Luc:
Hello Jim
Thanks you for your reading and comments.
Kind regards
Luc
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Karl:
Luc another great and interesting story thanks for sharing !!
Don't know that I would actually drink that stuff , but hey I am sure there would be plenty who would.
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Luc:
Hey and thanks you Karl. All the best
Luc
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Idaho Jones:
Neat story Luc! I remember seeing a program documenting another dive to find cognac. The ship had champange and cognac but they figured the champange would be soured. As it turned out the champange was good and the cognac had gotten seawater in it. Apparently the consistant cold temperature of the seabottom allows the champange to survive longer than it would on the surface. If I recall they were going to try and filter the cognac and save it as well.
Great stuff! :)
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