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« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2011, 07:48:56 pm »
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Just  keep on claiming that you are Rational?I will keep on finding gold and enjoying my hobby?
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« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2011, 08:57:19 pm »
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Just an irrational observation;

I can understand blasting at the sellers of LRLs, from a critics point of view, but those of us that just use them AND a lot of conventional detectors are looking to share and learn, not argue with someone that doesn't share the same interests.

So why does this go on??  What does it matter if a bunch of us want to be delusional and have a good time doing it?

How does that justify the flak?  I'm just saying. 

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« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2011, 09:01:29 pm »
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B K Precision Model 3001 is the generator I use.
50 Hz. is the frequency I use for gold.
Square-wave is the format.
Two black jacks on this model and two red ones,
I use the black ones with the alligator clips.
My L-rods are made of brass, but just about any will work.
For a transducer probe I bought a 100' spool of speaker wire,
twin lead. This I had to completely unspool and re-wind in order
to get about a 10" pigtail to attach to the probes. The probes
I made from leftover brass rods. I cut them about 8" in length
and cut a notch in one end of each. I soldered a wire to the end of
each from the pigtail, sharpened the other end of each to blunt points,
and with a pigtail from the outside of the spool of about ten inches,
I wrapped the assembly with cheap vynil electric tape. It would get
a response and lead me consistently to where a treasure wasn't.
The prongs were and still are about 3" apart. However, it still would
get a response from the L-rods. So I started thinking differently.
A Molecular Frequency Discriminator is a long-range locator. So I started
triangulating signals, estimating distance based on response time, and
carrying a compass and a notebook. I ended up with several lines drawn
on several maps, and multiple intersections of lines were better than
no starting point at all. Also I tried moving signals with electrical charges.
 With my probe stuck in the ground and a signal terminus located, I would
put the positive lead from a battery to the north, into the signal. The negative
lead would go about 10' to the south. If the signal was north of where
something was hidden, after two or three moves the response would "phase out"
only to return after a few days. If it was southernly from the actual cache site it
would move in increments towards the actual site in nearly a straight line
to an extent. Now at least, progress. More in a bit...      

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« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2011, 01:22:35 am »
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« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2011, 09:50:18 am »
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Quote:Posted by fenixdigger
Just an irrational observation;

I can understand blasting at the sellers of LRLs, from a critics point of view, but those of us that just use them AND a lot of conventional detectors are looking to share and learn, not argue with someone that doesn't share the same interests.

So why does this go on??  What does it matter if a bunch of us want to be delusional and have a good time doing it?

How does that justify the flak?  I'm just saying. 




Fen your right but as has been said before dowsing, yammy treasure and the KGC threads will get flak. The problem is that when a question is asked of a dowser it goes unanswered are is answered in a combative way. You and gooner seem to be different and are answering questions to the best of your knowledge. That is a good thing maybe y'all can turn the drowsing topic's around. There are trouble makers on both sides of this topic look at Art's commit it add zero to the topic it was posted only to stir up trouble, some of the others are not treasure hunters but trolls here only to start trouble hopefully they will be weed out over the next few weeks. On the other hand you have me, GD, BA and many others that have been at this for years, have tried drowsing when they post advice its from personal experience not something read in a book or off the net.
I don't believe in drowsing it cost me a 40,000 dollar cache back in 88. But I am willing to listen and maybe learn something.     








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« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2011, 01:47:33 pm »
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Nothing combative about the statement?You called the tools we use pseudoscience babble and magical treasure finders. You continued by calling Dells BS and said that it may make you puke?I am sorry that you did not understand my post?.
Now if you have any unanswered questions about Dowsing  please put them on here?.Art



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« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2011, 03:40:59 pm »
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Nothing combative about the statement?You called the tools we use pseudoscience babble and magical treasure finders. You continued by calling Dells BS and said that it may make you puke?I am sorry that you did not understand my post?.
Now if you have any unanswered questions about Dowsing  please put them on here?.Art

If you are going to accuse someone here of something, it is customary to quote the block of text to which you are referring. Your statement here can't be taken seriously if nobody knows who said what you claimed has been said.

With that, Art, it is now up to you to clarify your accusation or just be very, very quiet. Do you see how this forum stuff works now?

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« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2011, 06:15:09 pm »
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GD I deleted the block of text he is just trying to stir up trouble with Huh?Huh?  its easier not to give others ammo. Art has been asked questions before and sidestepped them  now he wants to play nice just as I am ready to show him the door. 

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« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2011, 06:42:54 pm »
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Wow?where have I saw this before.
I see 6 posts stating that our devices both Electronic and Dowsing are fraudulent or con jobs.
 I see one post Telling us to go someplace where there is no opposition..I thought this was a Treasure Hunting site.
I see  3 posts with personal attacks
I see posts accusing us of not answering his questions
Straight from the Skeptics bible
 Wow?where have I saw this before.
~ Rational Observer~

However, I'll pass on the pseudoscience babble about how a function generator turns itself into a magical treasure finder. Dell Winders pretty much well has that market of BS cornered and I'll more than likely puke should I continue to hear it again
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Just  keep on claiming that you are Rational?I will keep on finding gold and enjoying my hobby?
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« Reply #99 on: January 31, 2011, 07:06:54 pm »
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B K Precision Model 3001 is the generator I use.
50 Hz. is the frequency I use for gold.
Square-wave is the format.


Once you short the function generator out...and stab the probes into the ground...you are no longer @ 50hz and you no longer have a square wave.

Then again....all that is irrelevant as you are dowsing to begin with. You've been tricked into believing the function generator is actually doing something.

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You called the tools we use pseudoscience babble and magical treasure finders.



Actually....Science and a whole bunch of Government agencies call your "tools" pseudoscience

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You continued by calling Dells BS and said that it may make you puke?



Dell's BS does make me want to puke. In my opinion, he is a conman, a liar and a thief. Three of the worse things imaginable on Earth.  

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