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« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2009, 04:42:45 am »
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Well I have read mutiple forums on dowsing, I have not dowsed a single time, but watched several videos and have come to following conclusions, I am not an expert or a engineer, but can comment on what I feel about it as below :-

1. Dowsing is possible in some cases only where electricity / magnetism of earth is involved. The reason being unknown, there is some science which keeps the rod moving, the science which the scientist are not able to explain, if they are not able to explain does not mean that it is not a straight logic and not possible.
2. Dowsing is possible only in certain cases like wherever there occurs change in magnetics/ electricity of earth. otherwise the rods won't move.
3. It definetely has something to do with the electricity/ magnetism of our own body. Our body definetely emits electricity. and as we are holding metal especially bronze, which is a very good conductor of electricity, it may be interacting with the earth electricity, + or - causing the rods to move. You remember "Shivering" it is a very good example of change in the magnetic fields around your body, so your body react in terms of "shivering"  or many times in cold your body skin turns all of sudden rough to feel and hairs on your hands go straight up, when you comb your hair and put paper chits near the comb, they stick to it.
4. I do not beleive in map dowsing, as I do not find any logic in it.

There is no need to concentrate on anything, as dowsing all depends on how much charge your body is carrying ! It is a simple logic. If your body is charged due to any reasons, then you can dowse successfully for any thing which causes change in the magnetism/ electricity the earth is carrying.

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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2009, 05:19:46 pm »
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NICOLI TESLA.......He wrote some interesting articles on the electricity in and around the earth, also did some amazing experiments. Much of what we have today was the result of his work...A good read, might explain dowsing whether or not it actually works.
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2009, 06:42:48 pm »
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Well, if an object was constantly emitting energy this would need to stop by itself one day or you were looking at a perpetum mobile with endless enegery - which is not possible. Just my 2 cents.

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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2009, 02:22:31 am »
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Nicoli Tesla !  Clapp . Well I think Johnlaw has already proven by directing to the article of Nicoli Tesla that there can be endless energy !

The best example is a magnetic generator when if plugged, goes on forever until the magnetism is there and I don't think magnetism will end that easily !

Great work johnlaw, today I learned how to make a magnetic generator ! I will try one to make for my house electricity ! I will save in thousands per year, and that too it will be free electricity for life ! Find that article Christian, you may end up in a great treasure of savings by doing nothing year after year !

If magnetism would have ended that easily, earth would have stopped emitting magnetic forces by now ! you can imagine how old that forces may be from earth !

The only cheapest form of energy for the next decade and will keep ruling thereafter will be magnetic energy !

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Thank you once again johnlaw !  Clapp Great work   Pray , keep it up !

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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2009, 03:17:13 am »
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There's a book by Dr. Paul E. Dobler (German Physicist from the early part of the last Century) whereby he investigates the dowsing effect.  If you read it you will see he followed strict Scientific protocol and discovered that all things emit some form of energy in the millimeter range.  Now we have passive millimeter cameras that can see all objects by the natural radiation they give off.  Dr. Dobler used primitive equipment like Dr. Bose (discovered microwaves in the late 1800's).  Too bad he couldn't of used a THZ spectrum Analyzer or Oscope in that range

Current thinking from what I've read is that the dowsing effect may be a function of gravity field via scalar waves.  That would make sense in the fact that our nervous system responds well to scalar energy as opposed to a sine wave.  Just my humble opinion.

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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2009, 08:25:43 am »
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All objects absorb energy from light, cosmic, etc. Some say it's the object's gravity that draws in the energy, but resonance can explain it. When a photon hits an electron it transfers energy at it's frequency.

That said, the simple electroscope experiment does not in any way prove that objects emit energy. That is a simple induction device which shows how objects attract or repell each other depending on their polarity (electrostatic).
 

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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2009, 08:47:03 am »
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Dowsing is a way of being conscious of sensory inputs which are not directly connected to the instinctive brain functions. For example man's sensitivity to magnetism.  The organ we assume to be responsible for this sensitivity is the pineal gland . We know that the pineal is contained within the skull, but the pineal lies outside the brain, and has no direct contact with the brain nor does it have direct nerve connections. So the pineal must communicate with the lower brain through subconscious urges, and not rational thought. In the case of dowsing, clearly the subconscious brain (not mind) is, in some way, able to alter muscle tension in the shoulders and arms, by way of the ideomotor effect, causing the crossing of angle rods, and the swinging or rotation of the pendulum
Yet the same channels must also be used by other subconscious stimuli for them to be felt. Anyone who has used dowsing tools may find that the same techniques work well for psychic explorations, such as dating artifacts and map dowsing. But, although the manner of bringing the raw impulse through to conscious perception may be the same, this does not mean that the origins are the same. Dowsing may be linked to the magnetic sensitivity of the pineal, but psychic  sensations may emanate from quite different organs.
Becker and Marino , who state that not all information gathered by the usual senses is 'processed at the conscious level, and there is no physiological principle that would preclude the subliminal detection of EMFs [electromagnetic fields] by the nervous system.'
No one knows how dowsing works, they only know it does. There are two popular theories to explain dowsing:

 The first suggests that dowsing works as a result of natural phenomena. Buried metal, minerals and underground water causes either a magnetic field or a disturbance in the earth?s own magnetic field. It is thought that the dowsing rod is a tool for showing the reaction of the magnetic field in the ground to the natural magnetic field of the body. This theory was investigated scientifically in Logan, Utah, USA, around 30 years ago. Intrigued by a dowser pinpointing the bodies of two boys who drowned in a local river, Duane G. Chadwick, professor at the Utah State University Water Research Laboratory undertook several experiments to see if there was some scientific basis for dowsing. Chadwick and his colleague, Larry Jensen started from the known observations of geologists that underground water can cause anomalies in the Earth's magnetic field. They figured that dowsers could show sensitivity to these anomalies by involuntary muscular movement in the wrists, and dowsing rods would certainly amplify any small muscular reaction by up to 300 times.
In the first of a series of experiments, on the Campus, they set about testing the idea that dowsing reactions might coincide with the spots where some changes occurred in the Earth's magnetic field. Chadwick and Jensen laid out a straight track, free of obstructions and, using a caesium vapor magnetometer, checked for variations in the earth?s magnetic field at one-foot intervals. Chadwick then buried a length of wire, in a neutral area, to distort the magnetic field. Twenty-five people were recruited to walk the test course. Few of them were dowsers; most were students or university staff. They were given a pair of L- rods made out of clothes-hanger wire, and told to hold them out roughly horizontal. If they felt any kind of reaction, they were to stop and put down a small block of wood. The results were amazing in that twenty-three of the participants had a dowsing reaction within three feet of the buried wire. Chadwick was convinced the outcome was far greater than chance.
In another experiment in North Logan City Park, Chadwick and Jensen marked out a test course with no obvious or known features. This time, the test was double blind - nothing was deliberately buried and no one knew what was out there. 150 participants with dowsing rods were asked to drop a wooden block whenever they experienced a dowsing reaction and again almost everyone did. They dropped an average of 11.3 blocks each (that?s 1695 blocks) and the location of each block was documented. Then Chadwick and Jensen went over the course with two magnetometers mounted, at different heights, on a wooden sled. The difference between the magnetometer readings showed the variation in the magnetic field along the track walked by the dowsers. The researchers then graphed the magnetometer readings against the positions of the wooden blocks, which showed again that the dowsing reactions occurred unmistakably at peaks in the magnetic field.

The Second theory is that dowsing works through the arts of the paranormal; an explanation used to account for the ability of some dowsers to find objects which are thought not to produce or influence magnetic fields. As far as field dowsing is concerned, the paranormal theory is probably in error since it has been shown that virtually everything, be it animal, vegetable or mineral, reacts to magnetic fields. However, map dowsing is something else. How does a person dowse a map to successfully locate a target hundreds or thousands of miles away? There are many unanswered questions along the same lines, which are commonly put down to psychic ability or intuition. Mankind does not know everything. Much science fact today was the science fiction and mysticism of the past and dowsing has undoubtedly survived from primitive times when the ability to find water, for instance, could have meant the difference between life and death.
To my mind there are actually two types of dowsing. Field dowsing based on magnetic effects and map dowsing or distance dowsing based on intuition or psychic ability. The two types of dowsing are quite different and both types can be learned and improved on with perseverance and practice
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This is a small spattering of information that I have found while researching ?consciousness? and it?s  relationship to PSI. The research and laboratory work in this field has been undertaken by colleges, universities, scientific, and government professionals all over the world for over 100 years. In every avenue of this research (of which dowsing is a part), the field work and lab work has shown consistently that PSI phenomena has performed better than random chance. (Some far better)
Some of the above was taken from Electromagnetism and life, Robert O. Becker and Andrew A. Marino, State University of New York Press, 1982

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« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2009, 01:33:51 pm »
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I would very much like to keep these comments going, as I am trying to learn anything I can about dowsing, long range detectors, etc. This is something that is new to me that I have been researching in my own time, in literature as well as in the field. I personally have been able to dowse with homemade dowsing rods. I am able to find the way pipes run underground, the way pipes run under sand at the beach, etc. My roomates did not believe me and decided to try as well. The rods worked for one of them and did not work for the other. The amazing thing is that they were both complete skeptics, yet it still worked for one of them, so this can not be totally in the mind. 

Again, I am completely new at all this, and I am trying to find out all I can. ANY information or links to helpful information would be appreciated. Crazy

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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2009, 01:56:11 pm »
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Try
Christopher Bird's "The Divining Hand" (then you will see it IS in the mind)

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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2009, 01:19:33 am »
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Then when you're done with Christopher Birds book you can get:

Dowsing:New Light on an Ancient Art by Tom Williamson; 1993

Biophysical Experiments on the Radiation of Matter,Divining Rods,Electric Waves by Dr.Paul E. Dobler;1939 translated into english and can be bought from Integrity Research Institute.

Water Dowsing-Energy waves and Chemistry by Dr. Cecil W. LeFevre and Warren Jay Gleason;2003.

Dr. Dobler and Dr. LeFevre's book are 100% scientific complete with experiments that can be duplicated.  Williamson does an excellent job although not a Scientist and I felt should be listed as he put's forth his theories of all the different earth effects that can and do effect a field dowsers response.

Having said this when dowsing anything but water which is a function of telluric currents, the brain has to take the signal inputs and learn to discriminate unwanted signals versus the signature of what you are looking for such as silver or gold.

Map dowsing on the other hand is a purely mental task and relies on ones intuition which comes from the subconcious part of the mind.  Books I have read strongly suggest that the dowser does a field study FIRST of an area before sitting down with a map.  Uri Geller does this when hired by mining companies by actually surveying the area and doing in depth research of the geology and mining records etc.

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