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	Past finds « on: February 06, 2010, 08:34:53 AM »

Hi All,
Some more past finds, as we all know ammo comes up in all the wrong places the live .303 were found under a very large tree root and after struggling to retrieve them I gave up so the signal I was recieving told me there were a lot more there.
The tin of mixed finds were waiting to be sorted through.
Mostly general stuff but leaves me with some very satisfying hours to clean and wonder how these things got where they were..HH..Johnnn

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 10:14:02 PM »

John, is that a Rat Fink ring below the key in the tin? If so, I haven't seen one of those in nearly 40 years.

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 04:19:27 PM »

Hi BA,
It is a ring made of alumimum whith a rodent of some kind on it, can do a close up of it if ya want ....Johnnn

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 04:42:33 PM »

Hi John,

Yeah, a close up would be nice. In the meantime, here's a website that deals with RatFinks (it even has a picture of a ring that looks remarkably similar to yours except where yours is yellow, this one is green).

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 03:19:39 AM »

Digging up those live bullets must be quite dangerous! I heard a story when i was a small boy about a detectorist having a bullet go off whilst digging a target up i think he ended up dead! Shocked

unless i was having my leg pulled Grin

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 06:21:31 PM »

Hi Lee,
I find many live rounds but usualy they are in single finds I have found a canvas belt one time all rolled up. If your pinpointing is good the bullet or whatever your target should still be in the soil you just dug....THEN!! you have to be carefull choice is yours dont let em dry out if you dont want the thing find some deeeep water and dump it...Johnnn

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 06:38:04 AM »

Hi johnnn so if i do find a live bullet and i wanted to keep it is there anything in particular i should do to make it safe? Thanks Great

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 04:48:19 PM »

Hi Lee,
I will stick my neck out and show you what I have done to my WW1 live rounds, what I will show has to be done in some water and is safe ,if you want to collect a few bullets you must always keep them submeged in water until you are ready to deal with them.....I will post some pix for you........HH....Johnnn
Hi Lee,
Below is a pic of some "safe" .303" rounds dated 1915 you will see a 3/16" diameter hole drilled at the base of the casing. This "HAS" to be done while the bullet is submeged under water, that prevents the generation of heat, and I'm sure EVERYONE knows explosives and heat do not get along.
After the hole is drilled "slow revs with the drill" you extract in this case the Cordite strands with a pair of tweezers and dump it. Now you have a "safe" relic.
Once again "not sure?" dont attempt it........Johnnn

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #8 on: June 11, 2010, 04:48:37 PM »

	Quote:	Posted by Lee redpath
Digging up those live bullets must be quite dangerous! I heard a story when i was a small boy about a detectorist having a bullet go off whilst digging a target up i think he ended up dead! unless i was having my leg pulled

I hear this often.
I have recovered many live rounds, and have carried arms been shooting since I was four.
I think you may heave heard about someone digging a 'UXO" or Unexploded Munition, (bomb, grenade, artillery shell,landmine, etc.) these are designed to explode as a function of their design.
There have been cases of relic hunters being killed or injured by unexploded artillery shells and bombs.
Your typical center or rimfire cartridge isn't that dangerous, and they don't just "explode"
If that were the case they would be handled like dynamite and would have to be classified differently.
If thrown into a fire, they will "burst", and pieces may fly about with enough force to cause cuts or eye injuries, but the function of a bullet is such that the force of the combustion must be directed to be made dangerous.
Think of it like this....
Put a firecracker in an open palm and light it (stupid, I know, but it is for demonstration purposes) it will "blow up, but the most you will get is some burns and stinging pain.
Now light it and CLOSE your hand and you will most likely lose a finger.
A bullet that for some reason explodes in a person's had or while being dug would possibly cause cuts, burns and eye injuries, but would have to be VERY lucky indeed to kill.

NICE collection John..
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A good way to render cartridges "safe" is to submerge them in "WD40" for about four days.
This will penetrate the primer pocket, and render the priming compound useless.

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	Re: Past finds « Reply #9 on: June 11, 2010, 04:53:43 PM »

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I hear this often. I have recovered many live rounds, and have carried arms been shooting since I was four. I think you may heave heard about someone digging a 'UXO" or Unexploded Munition, (bomb, grenade, artillery shell,landmine, etc.) these are designed to explode as a function of their design. There have been cases of relic hunters being killed or injured by unexploded artillery shells and bombs. Your typical center or rimfire cartridge isn't that dangerous, and they don't just "explode" If that were the case they would be handled like dynamite and would have to be classified differently. If thrown into a fire, they will "burst", and pieces may fly about with enough force to cause cuts or eye injuries, but the function of a bullet is such that the force of the combustion must be directed to be made dangerous. Think of it like this.... Put a firecracker in an open palm and light it (stupid, I know, but it is for demonstration purposes) it will "blow up, but the most you will get is some burns and stinging pain. Now light it and CLOSE your hand and you will most likely lose a finger. A bullet that for some reason explodes in a person's had or while being dug would possibly cause cuts, burns and eye injuries, but would have to be VERY lucky indeed to kill.

.... make sure the pointy end is not pointed towards you or anyone else. That could cause problems IF the round went off.

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