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« on: February 19, 2010, 05:18:32 am »
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Hello, all. Last year my friend invited me go for metal detecting in lot where him father reside. That place was a not far from Yerevan City. I found there  horseshoe, a cartridge case and many wrought nails.
But the most interesting thing was the man's footprints on vulcanic basalt rock, situated in the backwoods of the lot, in a swamp place. After cleaning and washing, this photo of  footprints  was made by camera Canon.
 Interestingly, Hamlet Muradyan, the father of my friend is 90 years old(see photo). He was born and lived here and knew about that from childhood.
What may be a parentage of footprints, somebody seen the same in other place?

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 05:34:37 am »
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That is VERY INTERESTING!  Was there only 1 foot print? About what size it is?  Makes you wonder... I have a rock a friend brought to me from the coast of Maine 7 years ago.  She knew I enjoyed rocks from different places.  After getting it home, you can see a right hand print.  My hand fits right in there.  She had no idea it was there.  I often wonder how long it took to create this.

The foot print makes me think of the prayer "Foot prints in the sand." You are lucky to have seen this.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 05:56:05 am »
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SharenH, there was two footprints of left and of the right foots (see photo).
The size of my foot is 27sm length. You can compare the size of footprints.

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 08:10:56 am »
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Oh!That man must have been heavy to make such deep foot impressions. Grin
Or was he walking on semi-molten earth?

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 08:28:54 am »
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That is sooooo.... cool... Thank you for responding.  It looks like from the print they had a high arch too.  Very large feet.  I assume the print would shrink some when cooling.  And with the span from one foot to another a long legged person as well.  Poss running.

That is the best find I have ever seen.  Thank you for posting.  Makes me think what was happening for them to take the risk.  I look forward to hearing more from others on this.

Have a great day!!!

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 08:36:28 am »
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Perhaps there is a need to involve some more informed personnel in
this and remove some of the overburden "surrounding soil".
This is only to see if there is a "trail of footprints" they do appear suspicious.
If they are genuine and not carved, there may be some significance to this "find".
1. The deposits need to be graded to how old it is.
2. Authenticating the impressions are of some importance.
3. Keep the curious out of the area. "Theives"
4. Population centers: How close are they?
5. Do not allow Creationists to involve themselves in this.
    Whether the impressions are real or not they will declare it as proof
    of "Biblical Creation".
    Keep it pure science and your credibility will be sustained.


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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 01:17:02 pm »
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These are some of the cleanest examples of prints I have seen. If they are genuine fossil prints I would say the person was running due to the stride length and depth of the print. Also the toes seem to be spread out which could indicate a running stance. The first track the ball of the foot is deeper as in a push off. While they are a little larger than the persons foot in the comparison shot they still look normal sized to me, perhaps a few inches taller.

I guess if I was walking barefoot in hot rock I might run too Smiley Definitely something a geologist and anthropologist should look at I'd say. You might examine the impressions carefully for creases and possibly sworls. If they have been exposed its likely eroded away but if there are some still buried who knows.

Very interesting thanks for sharing!

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 01:33:37 pm »
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Interesting, shasha. Those prints are great - any idea of when the last eruption happened in your area? Your friend's father is one handsome gentleman. Your post brightened up my day - thanks for sharing. Sue

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 02:54:20 pm »
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Thanks!
mindfree, the lava's temperature is from 1000? to over 1200?

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I take pity this man, and him experience in "footprinting".

SharenH, you are right, seems this was a stalwart man.
Out4gold, I can say that in my view, there is not any differences in basalt  colors, roughness and other properties inside of print and out. Looking like that age of surface in the footprints is the same as the surrounded surface.

I can't say anything about the age of footprints. The analysis needed for that.
This territory is the property of Hamlet Muradyan, and few know about that thing.
You are right, there is a need to involve some experts.
Sue, the earthquakes is not a rarity in Armenia. For example the refered in

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town Moz was covered by lava in 8-th century. Now there all territory is a young black lava-basalt rocks.


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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 05:34:12 pm »
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Sorry, those are just too clean and too deep in igneous rock to be genuine footprints. They look as if they are old, yes, but carved into the rock by a practical joker. Perhaps a joker from a few hundred years past. No human could ever withstand the temperature of molten lava no matter how hardy he or she was. Couple that with the fact that our skeletons have increased in size from the days of early man compared to today's human and you have a huge question rather than a mysterious find.

There are numerous examples of human footprints in the fossil record. All of them are in sandstone or limestone which is formed from softer, cooler material than lava. Heat can change the mineralization later when the impression is touched by geothermal activity but a footprint in lava is just impossible.

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