My ACE 250 on DE beaches after BILL...methods to use?

Well guys,

I tried it the day before yesterday with three different detectors.

I happen to know two kids here who own one an ACE 250, the other a Viking VK 30, a digital detector that's not very well known outside Europe. Its compatable to the ace 250, except it has a "beach" stand.

I had my modest Compadre.

To make it short : it doesn't work at all. We waited for the detectors to false on the wet sand, which happens sooner for the Compadre than for the two others (The Compadre has no sens knob), and for the two others, with reduced sens (and the VK30 on its beach setting), at the point the sand turns from damp to wet.

(None of the units of course was able to work without falsing in gullies full of seawater, the places where most items are to be found.)

At the point each unit started to false, we turned it off, then back on. We might have noticed two or three first sweeps without falsing (with both the ACE and the Viking-the Viking having a turn on KNOB), but that is nothing more than the detector just turned on and needing a few seconds to think "uh-oh, this is salty" before falsing again.

So the tip is just re-zeroing the detector, which does definitely NOT ground balance.

As I said earlier, I' m not superman, but I've een hitting beaches with more than 30 different MDs (currently own six) for more than sixteen thousand hours, I am an avid fan of Mr Garrett's wonderful and very instructive books about metal detectors, never have I read or heard such a thing.

Now if some ACE users are wanting to believe in that trick, that is OK with me.

I feel that even if Charles Garrett would write it won't work on this very forum, they would still want to learn him a lesson.

Detectors need to be used for what they were designed for. The ACEs series, are excellent coinshooters from top of mountains up to the high tide mark on the beach.

And the have a preset , non adjustable ground balance.

Amen.



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Something a lot of folks are not aware of, is that
some machines have an internal potentiometer
that will adjust the ground balance.

I had a Garrett GTAx 500. I was told by Garrett
that I could adjust it internally. But unfortunately,
I had just sold it because it was too noisy???

I have a Tesoro Silver Sabre uMax. Both the Silver
uMax and the Silver Sabre uMax have an internal
ground balance pot. I have set the ground balance
to my most common type soil.

I have to remove the housing each time I set it.

Tesoro had one model with a hole, or reassess
in the housing. You could insert a screw driver
and adjust the ground balance.

I do not see why they did not put a three and one
half turn pot on the face plate and let people use it?

Of course thay would have to charge more money
then?? How much does a pot cost?

Then I guess it would take more work to install it.

They have a machine that presses the internal pots
onto the circuit board. So that does not take any hand
labor.

I think I just answered my own question,

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog


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Hi
I was looking forward into taking on this hobby with a Ace 250 for $200 and was one that asked about using it for beach searching and was very disappointed to hear if wasn't good for the beach. I had been put of by members of forum. I feel that some members have a problem with the cheap price tag of detectors and are unwilling to look further into them.
Them I get some positive info from a moderator that helps with the choice of the Ace 250. Thanks

Metal Detection is surposed to be fun!!

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		Quote:			Posted by simmy
	Hi I was looking forward into taking on this hobby with a Ace 250 for $200 and was one that asked about using it for beach searching and was very disappointed to hear if wasn't good for the beach. I had been put of by members of forum. I feel that some members have a problem with the cheap price tag of detectors and are unwilling to look further into them. Them I get some positive info from a moderator that helps with the choice of the Ace 250. Thanks Metal Detection is surposed to be fun!!

Simmy, moderators have no special insight but we do mostly have broad experience. This is why I suggested that you read the past threads on the subject of the Ace 250. Even at the "cheap" price of $225.00, that's still a lot of money and you should be sure you want to spend it on a machine like the Ace 250. I believe it is a fine machine and highly underrated by its detractors.

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