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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2009, 10:15:08 pm »
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Too bad the conditiosn where so bad. I really look forward to your first results!

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009, 10:21:04 pm »
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Yes it was pretty bad spot. I had not been to the location prior to that or I would have passed. I do know the area for tomorrow so I can make a nice plot and see some results. The small plot I got in on the hill resulted in a small screwdriver from about 3 ft down. not bad but I want to see some gold! Detecting

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 10:22:56 pm »
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I also want to point out that the screwdriver did not hit on my DFX nor did it hit on the 2 box as a stand alone unit. No tone was heard at all. But hooked up to the logger it showed up as a very nice target. So far I am very pleased with the results of the Logger.

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 06:29:33 am »
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That's whats funny, when I tell people that using a detector with the logger you get more depth, they look at me like I'm crazy. But it's true. Many people have told me the same thing over and over. Jason you are doing a good job and cut your learning curve down allot the way you read everything and played with the software before you got the unit. Good Job. Great

Christian I did not forget about you. I've been hooked up here doing 4 things at the same time. I will get the measurements to you soon.

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 07:00:36 am »
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Tim you don't get more depth with a logger . The thing that happens with a logger is that the signal , however small , is registered better for you to see . The eye and the ear are not as sensitive  .   Cornelius

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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2009, 08:35:01 am »
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If any of you are going to the texas treasure show March 20,21, Mr Bob Brewer called and told me he was going to show KGC targets he has dug using the Arc-Geo logger and a 2-box. He will also do a presentation on the logger. I will video it. He will also have pictures and his books there. So come out and have some fun!

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Tim, can you explain how a logger works and also how it works in conjunction with a detector? Appreciate any info you can share.

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2009, 10:38:27 am »
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Tim you don't get more depth with a logger . The thing that happens with a logger is that the signal , however small , is registered better for you to see . The eye and the ear are not as sensitive  .   Cornelius


I can see where that could be a bit confusing for folks. Yes there is more depth in the sense that the analog signal (speaker output) is not able to create a tone for the deepest target that we can hear with our ears. Yes the detector is still sensing the same depth that it always has but the Logger hooked up to it does not need an audiable tone nor does it have crappy human ears. It works based on signal strength even the minutest changes that are made into numbers and recorded. It takes an average over the area and if there is the smallest hit above the base average it lets you know. From a gravel drive to the green grass I can show a flux and point that out on the software. So in a sense it is "deeper". The technology is in your detector and you can hear to a certain depth with the speaker output and the human ear but with the logger you WAKE UP your detector of choice by adding the Arc Geo Logger and hence you get more "DEPTH" than you had without it.  I am stoked on mine and I am off to fire it up right now. Catch you guys later!

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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 06:17:40 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 08:13:40 pm »
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You don't think of audio signal. It's more like pulsed dc on these detectors. So not only am I watching the level of the output but the dc component as well. It makes no difference how you say it. You can say the detector is always seeing the same depth yet you cannot recover anything deeper than you can hear. If you connect it to the Arc-Geo it will sense the smallest shift and display it. So in effect you are getting better depth than you would without the Arc-Geo. Have you ever heard of someone recovering a small screw driver at 3ft like Gold Dredger with a 2-box before? Most would say a 2-box cannot detect anything. They never had any luck using one! Dan says that using a 2-box with the Arc-Geo logger, one could see a car engine @ 25ft with no problem. That's a fact from test he has conducted. I will video Mr. Brewers presentation and put it up on YouTube. He will have targets, some he has recovered down to 12+ feet!

The software also plays a large part in that it takes each sample within the plot and compares to the sample on each side within the plot! That is why even in highly mineralized soil you will still see targets! Because the soil becomes the background so you can think of it as a threshold and the targets will be above it in data value. One user had an aluminum pot buried 5 feet in mineralized soil and his friend could not see it with a GPR. But he saw it with a 2-box and the Arc-Geo. The Arc-Geo logger is the best value for the money on the market today. Ask anyone that owns one. I have sold logger to some that have those so called imagers that cost 10k or more and the same plot is never the same. You can lay your detector on the ground on all metal mode non-motion and bring a coin towards the coil and note the distance. Then connect it to the logger and you will get sometimes up to 4" more. If you can't hear it you don't know it's there! I would rather see it and know where it is in the plot.

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Here are some videos I did on the loggers that may help you better.

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