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« Reply #100 on: May 17, 2013, 12:08:12 pm »
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Golden Circle to establish a commercial empire based on the expansion of slavery into the West Indies, Mexico, and parts of Central America.

I didn't know that.

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« Reply #101 on: May 17, 2013, 07:00:05 pm »
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Yeah especially since the West Indies and most of Central America were ALREADY full of slaves.....in fact most slaves illegally smuggled into the United States after the Act Prohibiting the Importation of Slaves of 1807 came from the West Indies.   They didn't need KGC to expand slavery into them.   Mexico being the lone exception were slavery was technically illegal as of 1828.

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« Reply #102 on: May 17, 2013, 07:55:19 pm »
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Yeah especially since the West Indies and most of Central America were ALREADY full of slaves...

Precisely. But why let a few facts get in the way?

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« Reply #103 on: May 19, 2013, 11:48:05 pm »
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There is another presentation in Richmond, Virginia as well:

Knights of the Golden Circle: Secret Empire, Secession, Civil War
Thursday, June 13 (noon)
By David C. KeehnBanner Lecture Series

The Knights of the Golden Circle was a mysterious southern-based society that set out in 1859 to establish a slave empire in Mexico. In late 1860, it shifted its focus to supporting the secession movement and intimidating Unionists in the South. According to David Keehn, once the war began, the Knights helped build up the nascent Confederate army and carried out various clandestine actions, including an attempt to assassinate Abraham Lincoln as he passed through Baltimore in 1861. Keehn, an attorney from Allentown, Pa., is the author of Knights of the Golden Circle: Secret Empire, Southern Secession, Civil War.

 Tickets are $4-$6

 Virginia Historical Society
 428 North Boulevard
 Richmond, Virginia
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Tel: 804.358.4901

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« Reply #104 on: May 20, 2013, 06:45:25 am »
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The Knights of the Golden Circle was a mysterious southern-based society that set out in 1859 to establish a slave empire in Mexico.

Absolute nonsense. Fairy tales of the highest order with the intent of selling these tales to the unsuspecting. Or the willing.

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« Reply #105 on: May 20, 2013, 08:10:50 am »
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The Knights of the Golden Circle was a mysterious southern-based society that set out in 1859 to establish a slave empire in Mexico. In late 1860, it shifted its focus to supporting the secession movement and intimidating Unionists in the South. According to David Keehn, once the war began, the Knights helped build up the nascent Confederate army and carried out various clandestine actions, including an attempt to assassinate Abraham Lincoln as he passed through Baltimore in 1861. Keehn, an attorney from Allentown, Pa., is the author of Knights of the Golden Circle: Secret Empire, Southern Secession, Civil War.



Come on man there is no documentation no proof at all that any of this ever took place in fact there is no proof that the KGC ever was its just another conspiracy theory that folk that will not do their own research are buying into.   


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« Reply #106 on: May 20, 2013, 09:08:47 am »
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These guys all get together for their little conspiracy conventions and every side conversation is a whispered one. Then, the whispers get repeated again and again until they get legs of their own. No fact at the origin and none later. Just a new set of hushed, secretive rumors from the true believers. Utter nonsense, Seldom. Just wrong.

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« Reply #107 on: May 20, 2013, 01:15:28 pm »
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The Knights of the Golden Circle was a mysterious southern-based society that set out in 1859 to establish a slave empire in Mexico


I think Mythicle would be the correct word, Because there is little or No proof of their Exsistance and like all Legends/Stories there also alot of Poetic Liecense involved handed down through the generations which in turn makes way for every person who comes along to write a new Book and thus therefore carves out a new living for them selves,

10 million books are not as good as a finely Tuned Mind.

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« Reply #108 on: May 20, 2013, 04:05:55 pm »
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What we thought: 150 years ago
By From the editorial archives of Sauk Valley Media
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May 16, 1863

Bishop dared to do his patriotic duty

Disloyalty rebuked

Bishop Symit, the Roman Catholic bishop of Dubuque, a week ago last Sunday afternoon openly denounced the secret order of the Knights of the Golden Circle.

In his character as a confessor, he had learned of its existence there, and that its object was evil towards our government. He at once exposed it, and told his hearers that those of them who had been duped into joining this conspiracy should come forth from it immediately.

He gave all such members of his church two weeks to leave it. All who then continued in it, would be excommunicated. The bishop then appealed to his hearers to stand by the government, and not to be led by the wicked politicians in any schemes for its overthrow.

Dubuque is the headquarters of the Knights in Iowa, and this blow from a quarter whence they little expected it, is a crushing one on their schemes of wickedness.

All honor to the bishop who dares to do his duty and openly rebuke the doings of this treasonable organization.

Serves him right

[Clement] Vallandigham, the great Copperhead mogul, has been sentenced to the Tortugas for two years by Gen. Burnside. He can there talk treason to lizards and tadpoles to his heart’s content.

The sentence is a just one, and all loyal men will endorse Gen. Burnside for it; but it shows he has little respect for the natural inhabitants of that pleasant locality.

Good bye, Val; our love to your future comrades.

P.S. – The Philadelphia Inquirer of the 14th says that the president has changed the sentence by sending Vallandigham south during the war. Conscientious Lincoln.

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Copperhead

The first Copperhead, without doubt, made his appearance in the Garden of Eden.

The first, however, that made his appearance in this country was Benedict Arnold.

On the 20th of October, 1780, while the war of the Revolution was progressing, he issued a “proclamation to the citizens and soldiers of the United States,” appealing to them to turn against Washington, Hancock and their compatriots, just as certain politicians are now appealing to the people to turn against the government.

Meagher bows out

Gen. Thomas Francis Meagher, the renowned Irish orator and gallant commander of the Irish Brigade, has tendered his resignation. The brigade has been so reduced by repeated conflicts in the Army of the Potomac that it now numbers less than one thousand men, and the general does not wish to risk the lives of the remaining few by asking them to follow where he may choose to lead.

He does not, however, withdraw from the service, but offers himself to the government in another capacity.

Stonewall’s death

Late Richmond papers confirm the reports of the death of [Confederate Gen.] Stonewall Jackson. He died on Sunday last, from the effects of the amputation of his left arm, and pneumonia.

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May 16, 1863


The fact that a News paper printed it puts in line with Elivs being seen down at the mall

and the tails of DB Cooper and only because the papers lie, It look convincing to people but thats about it, too much has been added and changed by every Author since it came about,

good story, No Proof???


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