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« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2012, 09:29:09 am »
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all I'm getting is ridicule.




If you don't want to get ridiculed then stop side stepping the questions asked about your research and answer.

yantra nobody will ridicule you if you move away from the conspiracy folks and post your research and the reason why you have came to your conclusion's. We do have open mines here but will also call BS when nonsense is posted   

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« Reply #111 on: June 16, 2012, 02:57:33 pm »
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Im like Seldom, I like the house and its history Yantra, but cant connect the dots. There is way too many people writing books and I dont which ones are legit. I do photograph everything I see when out exploring. Do you know of any known writings of the Hieroglyphs so I can get a idea of what JJ supposedly used? Can you link it to the Masons? Besides the book, have you come across any research by others about the connection? I really dont do KGC, but the markings in the house have my interest. I could drive to glorieta and look for myself I guess. But if you know how to take photos it would be easier here.

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« Reply #112 on: June 16, 2012, 06:04:55 pm »
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Do you know of any known writings of the Hieroglyphs so I can get a idea of what JJ supposedly used? Can you link it to the Masons?




Good questions 

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« Reply #113 on: June 16, 2012, 07:49:06 pm »
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but I need to know more about the symbols to work out the whole grid,


Posted on: June 16, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
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I am looking for someone who see's where I am coming from and has some helpful advice especially when it comes to the codes and cyphers. I'm just putting that out on the board and hoping for an educational response.


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I'm talking to anyone who is interested. The thing that is bothering me right now are the railroads at the end of the civil war, and any codes or cyphers used by the KGC or books that they would tie there cyphers to. Those oghams are interesting, I think I have pictures of some of them on rocks around here. The cowboy poetry on the walls of Jesse's house have really strange misspellings obviously strange. He was educated well by the time he got here, these spellings are intentional. Any Codes, cyphers, or old railroad maps 1867ish from Texas to New Mexico


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When I'm out in the woods looking at the symbols and following the lines I am trying to put myself in their shoes, and anything I can learn that might give me a clue as to their mindset will help.


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These are my main questions, I am not accusing anyone of side stepping, I am just assuming...uh oh, i'm assuming! that no one here has any answers. There is sidestepping and then there is just not knowing. You keep asking "Where did the money come from?" I don't know. We could list all the James gang robberies, all the younger robberies, The James Younger robberies, The Dalton robberies, and then we could get crazy and talk about the Masons the royalty in europe, the Hapsburgs from austria that sent there son to be emperor of Mexico, why don't we go down to Mexico get the Maximilian treasure with Pancho Villa, and steal his stuff on the way back. As long as we're just making this stuff up why don't we get the Arc of the covenant out of that church in Ethiopia and the holy Grail from Scotland, stick it all on one of Jesse's railroad cars and bury it in the mountains of New Mexico! But really, I don't know where the money came from, take your pick. Don't forget that Union Payroll chest that was stolen from the Union Army at the Battle of Glorieta, that was dropped down a well, supposedly, and I do know where that well is, but it looks nasty down there!

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We do have open mines here but will also call BS when nonsense is posted

By the way, be careful around those open mines!

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Can you link it to the Masons?

It all goes back to the tabernacle in the wilderness.

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Do you know of any known writings of the Hieroglyphs so I can get a idea of what JJ supposedly used?

I thought that was my question...you're right though, good question !!!

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« Reply #114 on: June 16, 2012, 08:37:17 pm »
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 There are no signs or symbols thats a bunch of nonsense started by several writers back in the 60's to sell articles and books a hand full of armchair want to be's have spend their lives trying to convenes the treasure world that they are real when in fact there is no proof that any origination connected to the south ever hide any treasure are used any form of signs or symbols. These same people have tried to connect the south with the Masons, Jesse James, anybody or anything that might give them some creditability.

You call yourself a researcher and/or treasure hunter  but you don't follow the first rule of research. Prove what your looking for ever was. The South had zero money how can it hide something it never had?

If your looking for help with signs and symbols doubt if you will get it here few if any of us believe in the nonsense the ones that have tried to prove us wrong over the years move on after they are prove wrong about what claim.

This is a serious treasure forum where we try to keep 90% of the conversation about treasure and related subjects. If you have some serious treasure matters to talk about the post away but this sign nonsense needs to be over.

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« Reply #115 on: June 18, 2012, 12:16:17 am »
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Hi Yantra, I happened across a story out of Oklahoma about Jesse James and gang that robbed a mexican mule train near El Paso, TX. I was able to get a picture of actual treasure and a map. There is belief there is more out there. No KGC but good info, Enjoy.

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« Reply #116 on: June 18, 2012, 09:53:54 am »
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Cool episode Occassionally. thanks for the link

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« Reply #117 on: June 18, 2012, 10:49:13 am »
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No Problem, trying to help. The validity of signs has been hashed over pretty good, I would encourage Yantra to read why we dont follow signs to gold. He is on a good track researching the treasure. I do chase signs but as a hobby and Occassionally they produce a unexpected find. I get lucky and find a old camp. No "X" saying dig here, lol.

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« Reply #118 on: June 18, 2012, 11:52:27 am »
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I keep getting an error on that video, I am looking forward to seeing it, the internet was wierd yesterday, I think it was traffic from too many people skyping their dads. I will keep trying. I believe there is never a treasure at the sign, once you have a good picture of the grid you triangulate between the signs.  Yantra


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but you don't follow the first rule of research. Prove what your looking for ever was.

That's what I'm working on.

Posted on: June 18, 2012, 11:10:39 AM
Also someone was saying "How does it relate to the masons?" It is just thinking like a Mason. The Masons were really a spiritual order to reach a certain kind of enlightenment. When you are looking at the signs and getting lucky, as I say you would find 3 signs in a triangle then you go to the center of the triangle, there is no sign or symbol there but that is where you want to hit with the metal detector. They don't put signs right over the hole, it is the space between the signs. An old syrian friend of mine gave me a piece of sacred music from Syria. It was music that Moslems used in the Mosque,he said if I wanted to use it in the way they use it to reach Allah, you don't listen to the music, you listen to the empty spaces between the notes.

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Plenty of empty space on this thread.

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