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« Reply #130 on: January 14, 2010, 03:21:23 pm »
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New York Times, 1864, Lengthy article, Page 1, 1021 words, which mentions the Knights of the Golden Circle

THE CONSPIRACY.; PROPOSED NORTHWESTERN CONFEDERACY The Order of "American Knights." SECRET DOINGS OF NORTHEIM TRAITORS. The Name of Vallandigham and Many Others Connected with the Affair. The "Order of American Knights." Large Arrival of Prisoners. Guerrillas in Kentucky. Welland Canal Navigation Suspended. Weather at St. Johns, N.F.
July 29, 1864, Wednesday

"The Democrat publishes a long account of the conspiracy for the erection of a Northwestern Confederacy, reported a few days since. The organization engaged in this conspiracy to known as the "Order of American Knights," and its real object is to embarrass the Government in the conduct of the war, and to overthrow the Government, if necessary for the supremacy of the Order." [ END OF FIRST PARAGRAPH ]

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« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2010, 04:42:48 pm »
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Thank you, cccalco, for posting these important newspaper articles. The ones
about KGC strength in Leavenworth seem to confirm my belief that the
"underground city" there was actually a KGC tunnel network like that which is
under the town of Brownwood, Texas.
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« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2010, 09:43:22 pm »
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Those were very good articles. They confirmed alot of misbelief and are great for research! Ironhorse, that is a neat little story I will have to check that out!

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« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2010, 10:18:20 pm »
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Quote:Posted by Idaho Jones
I found and artical in the Logansport Daily Reporter Thursday August 31 1905 which details a shipment of 2000 rifles smuggled in Sunday School Book boxes being captured. Kind of a neat little story.


Hi Idaho Jones.  Here's a message I posted on our Bloody Bill group on July 9, 2006 that mentions "Dodd's Sunday School books".  I should note that our group's researchers have made a lot of historically important discoveries since the date this was posted.
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I was called to the Library Annex today to pick up an article about
Wild Bill Longley and, since I was there, I started thumbing through
a few more local history books and what I discovered blew my mind! I
picked up a typewritten book entitled "Memoirs of Brooke Smith of
Brownwood, Texas" written by "Himself". He wrote it from 1933-35.
Brooke Smith, like Henry Ford, was one of the early-day leaders of
Brownwood, Texas. He moved to Brownwood in the mid-1870's and opened
a general mercantile and soon became a well-known and respected
banker and civic leader. Since he was only a boy at the beginning of
the Civil War, he remained at home with his parents in Indiana after
moving there from Virginia where his family owned several slaves.
Apparently, he abided by the "Code" (of silence) that Henry Ford's
great grandson Lex Johnston mentioned in his book about his great
grandfather because nothing is said about the mysterious Henry Ford
or Bill Anderson in his book. But, to my knowledge, the page I am
about to quote below has never been revealed in recent decades until
now.
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"...his passage to Detroit, and arriving there he crossed the river
to Windsor, Canada, and stayed there until the war ended. He was
there about a year, and when he came home he had about a quart cup
full of silver money. We hadn't seen anything but greenbacks for
four years, and we thought Channing was rich. When the soldiers came
after Channing and asked where he was, Pa said, 'He said he was going
to slip over into Kentucky and join John Morgan's cavalry.' During
the war, after so many had volunteered and gone South, our vicinity
was about equally divided between the remaining northern and southern
sympathisers, and the friends of the South organized a secret
society, known as "The Knights of the Golden Circle". Our attic was
one of their favorite meeting places; they would come dark nights,
quietly, singly, and in every conceivable disguise. Camp Morton, at
Indianapolis, was a Federal military prison, and there were some
twenty to twenty-five thousand Southern prisoners confined there.
(Jim Smith was a prisoner there). Indianapolis had a large supply
arsenal, with arms and munitions and military food supplies. The
plan was that John Morgan would come over from Kentucky with his
cavalry army, and make a swift raid to Indianapolis, and that as he
came along, the Southern sympathisers would join and augment his
forces, and at the appointed and expected time the Knights of the
Golden Circle would gather at Indianapolis from all over the State,
all in all would have made a pretty large fighting force. There was
a book-binder in Indianapolis named H.H. Dodd, and the big long
revolvers to be supplied to the Knights of the Golden Circle were
shipped to Dodd from Hartford, Connecticut, labeled "Sunday School
Books', and these pistols were known as 'Dodd's Sunday School Books',
and those things would shoot; it is claimed that they would shoot
through a telegraph pole, or would shoot through a span of mules and
break both legs of the rider. My father was allotted one of the
Sunday School Books, and it is now in our family and is loaded with
the same loads he put in it to take to Indianapolis. Margan
attempted his contemplated raid, but it was not successful. Indiana
had too many railroads and too much telegraph line that cavalry
travel could not compete with, and before he got well on the way he
was overwhelmed with numbers and driven back to Kentucky. Some one
had tipped the secret of the expedition, and given the plan away, and
that is the reason that Morgan's expedition was not a big success.
The plan was to raid the arsenal, free the prison, and arm the
prisoners, which, together with Morgan, the Knights and the
prisoners, would have made history. Dodd was betrayed, arrested, and
given the death penalty, and was confined in the Indianapolis jail.
The next night was cold and drizzling, and someone went to the jail,
attracted his attention, and threw him a ball of twine, which he drew
up, sawed out of prison, came down the rope and escaped to Canada,
where he remained until the war was over. He came back to
Indianapolis and was never executed. Then there were the public
political parties that had their organizations and their flag poles
and their public speakings and torch light processions and
parades...."

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This raises even more questions about ex-Confederates, ex-guerrillas,
and Knights of the Golden Circle who may have lived in Brown County,
Texas after the war.
~Jay~
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« Reply #134 on: January 15, 2010, 07:12:07 am »
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Feb. 4, 1860 ? September 28, 1860 , February 16, 1861

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NATCHEZ [MS] DAILY FREE TRADER, February 4, 1860, p. 2, c. 3
Cramming Down the Bible by Law.

            Some of the warmest and most eloquent lovers of the Bible begin to consider human enactments, compelling that sacred volume to be read in schools, as a desecration.  The New Orleans Daily Crescent quotes the remarks of Dr. W.  A. Scott, formerly of New Orleans, now of San Francisco, against the proposition to have the Bible read in the public schools, with the following commendation:
            The majority of the population of San Francisco are Northern men, and wedded, of course, to the puritanical notions received with their early education.  These favor the compulsory reading of the Protestant Scriptures in the schools; and are also asking for a law compelling the observance of Sundays as a religious day of rest.  Dr. Scott, formerly of this city, who now is pastor of Calvary Church, the larges, and perhaps, wealthiest Protestant congregation on the Pacific coast, has zealously taken ground against both these measures.  He advocates strict religious equality and freedom, and thinks these should be a perfect and eternal separation of Church and State.  Dr. Scott says that all that true Christians should ask for is a free field; they need no assistance from the Government, and should accept none.  He, therefore, is opposed to all laws making a discrimination against the Catholics, by forcing the Protestant Bible in the schools; or against the jews or Turks, by compelling the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath.?On Thanksgiving day he delivered a sermon on these topics?which, he states, is nearly a counterpart of an address he once delivered in this city?and which we find replete with sound sense and genuine piety.



NATCHEZ [MS] DAILY FREE TRADER, March 30, 1860, p. 2, c. 3
The K. G. C.?A Few Remarks Thereon.

            A society of the K. G. C., or Knights of the Golden Circle, will be formed in this city at an early day.  The originators of this mystic order were certain military characters who resided in Lexington, Kentucky?the spring of 1854 being the date of its organization.  The first object of the organization was to cultivate a martial spirit among the people of the South.  The second object was to have a military organization in the South fully capable of defending our social and political rights from all assaults from our enemies at home and abroad.  The past history and present aspects of our political affairs seemed to demand that an organization such as the K. G. C., fully armed and equipped and officered, was absolutely necessary.  The order has steadily grown until now it numbers nearly forty thousand members, who are scattered over the Southern States of the Union, and the Northern States of Mexico.  No society of the kind has in this country combined such an amount of talent, resources or numbers as has this.  If we understand correctly, the present object of the K. G. C., is the invasion of Mexico.  I is well known, that in this distracted country a cruel war has raged with scarce an intermission, for the past ten years.  The country has been weakened by these intestine feuds; agriculture, commerce and manufacture have languished and the Mexican people have groaned under the oppression and tyranny of rival chieftains.  At the present time there are two parties in Mexico, contending for the supremacy of the government.  On the one hand stands the church party, with Miramon as their leader.  On the other hand stands the liberal party, with Juarez as their leader.  Our Minister to Mexico, Mr. McLane, has recently made a treaty with Juarez, which will be one of vast benefit to our government.  Our government has already recognized the Liberal party as being the government of Mexico.  The K. G. C.'s have already espoused the cause of the Liberals, and we are informed that it is their fixed determination to place it at the head of the Mexican Government, and thus aid them in restoring peace and harmony to a distracted country and an oppressed people.  Our citizens will be addressed shortly on the subject of armed intervention in the affairs of Mexico, by one of the most distinguished of the "Knights of the Golden Circle," when we hope to see a large turn out.  We speak what we know, or, as Hamlet would say, "by the Card," on this subject.  The statements we have made in this connection have been derived from parties who are perfectly reliable and who are entitled to respectful consideration.  Long live the K. G. C.'s?Vicksburg Sun.

NATCHEZ [MS] DAILY FREE TRADER, April 11, 1860, p. 3, c. 1
The K. G. C.
The Mobile Mercury of the 3d inst., contains the following:
                                                                        Headquarters American Legion K. G. C.}                                                                       Mobile, Ala., April 6th, 1860.}                                                                      General Order No. 564}
            Circumstances, which will be explained at a proper time, and in the usual way, have caused me to issue this, my official order, and I hereby command all faithful K. G. C.'s to obey the same.
            Colonels of regiments, upon the receipt of these presents, and special orders this day mailed, will issue their orders to all commanders of Castles in their respective States, to assemble their forces at the earliest convenience, and at once, on the closing of the business of the Castle, proceed to elect one or more delegates to meet in final convention in the city of Raleigh, N. C., which will be headquarters until further notice, on Monday, the seventh day of May, [337] 1860, to transact the following business.
            1.  To elect a permanent Commander-in-Chief for the military department of the K. G. C., to organize the several departments of the same, and to duly commission and confirm all commissioned officers.
            2.  To elect a permanent financial chairman, and to thoroughly organize the moneyed department of the K. G. C.
            3.  To elect a permanent President of the third or governing department of the K. G. C., and to enact a code in accordance with the laws of the United States and the objects of this association, and top provide a board of advisement.
            4.  To determine upon equipment and time of motion?to prepare an address to the people of the Southern States; to erect such a standard of membership as will clear the association of all vicious character, and do all other necessary and lawful work embraced in the honorable time of the K. G. C.
            Delegates, whether from the organization or the people, will have to bring proper credentials.  Southern gentlemen, with evidences of social position are respectfully invited to partake in every part of the labors of the Convention, except what pertains to the mere ceremonial of the order exclusively.
            No political or religious complications or questions can be entertained by the said Convention, when understood in a partizan or sectarian sense.  The Convention will sit from day to day, until its labors shall have been completed, when it will adjourn, to meet no more as a Convention in the United States.  As the aims and objects of the K. G. C. have been so much misrepresented, and as they should be so dear to every Southern heart, the newspapers of the Southern States friendly to the advancement of Southern interests and American enterprise are respectfully requested to copy.  All letters must be addressed to Raleigh, N. C.
                                                                                                                                                                George Bickley, K. G. C.,                                                                                                                     President American Legion.
 Gen. Quitman was the founder of the order of the K. G. C.

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« Reply #135 on: January 15, 2010, 09:27:29 am »
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Intriguing. That info coincides some of the data in the artical however it spoke of rifles. I can see long barreled pistols being mistaken for rifles though. Wish I could post it but the scans are rough and the allowable resolution here is to low.

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« Reply #136 on: January 23, 2010, 04:04:28 pm »
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Hi Idaho.  I believe that some were rifles and some were pistols.  There was a major KGC operation late in the War.  It was known as the Northwest Conspiracy.  James D. Horan writes about it in his book "Confederate Agent".  The book was published in 1954 after he was the first writer to be granted access to the government records of the KGC which had been sealed for almost 90 years.  I read the original book but here are the online versions.

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« Reply #137 on: January 23, 2010, 08:59:22 pm »
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Hi Idaho.  I believe that some were rifles and some were pistols.  There was a major KGC operation late in the War.  It was known as the Northwest Conspiracy.  James D. Horan writes about it in his book "Confederate Agent".  The book was published in 1954 after he was the first writer to be granted access to the government records of the KGC which had been sealed for almost 90 years.  I read the original book but here are the online versions.

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Actually...Horan is the one claiming he was the first writer to be granted access to the government records and so on. Sometimes called a sale pitch and sometimes simply called BS. People like Jay are gullible enough to believe both the sales pitch and BS   


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« Reply #138 on: January 24, 2010, 01:29:35 pm »
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If he so gullible about it then who was the first to recieve access to the goverment records since you know sooo much?

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« Reply #139 on: January 24, 2010, 05:35:50 pm »
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If he so gullible about it then who was the first to recieve access to the goverment records since you know sooo much?


Better yet...who claims pertinent information about the KGC was sealed...in the first place?

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