1909 Lost City in the Grand Caynon

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	Tunnels under Death Valley?

Elmo every few years these myths and legends show up in New Age books or the believe it are not books and the internet. After rehashing them the same conclusion is reached, they are myths with at best one so called eye witness who is not creditable.
The most important tool any treasure hunter or historian has is his brain and the ability to use logic and  common sense.

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	So what do you think about the Superstition Mountain Stories?

Have a look here.

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The Grand Canyon thing is like a hobby to me, I put it on a shelf and poke it now and again like a favorite childhood toy.

One thing that is odd to me about the story is no one knows the reason it was written. It just exists all by itself with no other stories quite like it. A bit out of character for the paper. Perhaps that means it was a fabrication, or perhaps... well who knows.

One interesting tidbit from the Powell Expedition (before Kincaid) in 1869.

June 29 - July 5

The party spends a goodly amount of time in the area. Powell explores a ways up the White River which enters the Green from the west, 1 3/4 miles below the mouth of the Unita. Calculations of longitude and latitude are made using astronomical observations.
Powell and two other men pay a visit to the Unita Indian Reservation in hopes of replenishing some of the party's supplies. Powell discovers fountains of some ancient indian ruins but the Unita claim to know nothing of the people who once occupied the area. Powell spends a couple of days studying the language of the Unita and in collecting some articles made by them.

July 29
Another canyon is entered and some interesting indian ruins are discovered. Arrowheads and pottery fragments are numerous in the area and some petroglyphs are also found. Later in the day, about 15 miles further down the river, another ruin is discovered.

Several other entrys describe ruins and relics so apparently someone used the canyon. It's quite an interesting read.

This site has a pretty well laid out accounting of it.

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I'd love to go check this one myself, even if it's bogus, just because what a neat place it would be to explore. To join an adventure like Powell's, well that just doesn't happen these days. Ah well...

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More than 2000 Ancestral Puebloan ruins have been found and maped in the GC and are considered Anasazi. But there is no evidence of a civilization that worked stone are metal.

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	I don't think that it is very likely that there is any Supernatural or Alien presence nor is there any connection with Egyptian Hieroglyphs.

Well said Miles and I agree there is lots of America history we know nothing about yet, and little will deal with  Supernatural or Alien or Egyptian Hieroglyphs.

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	Page 7 with the stone is the most impressive, unless you take photoshop into account

The stones have been examined by a number of experts in various related fields over the years, but the most careful and pains-taking examination was by Father Charles Polzer, a Jesuit priest and a well-known ethnohistorian associated with the Southwestern Mission Research Center at the Arizona State Museum. Father Polzer?s work is highly regarded, and he can easily be described as eminent in his field. He reportedly laughed when he was told that the drawings were purported to be more than a hundred years old.

Upon close examination, Father Polzer found that the surface of the stones had been milled with modern machinery before the drawings were inscribed thereon. And he went on to say, "?the drawings were cut into the stones with modern tools. The language and lettering is modern, if somewhat illiterate Spanish, clearly not colonial Spanish. The heart shape drawn on stone #3 is strictly of Northern European or Anglo character; Spaniards never depicted the idea of a heart with this kind of geometry." He went on at length describing more discrepancies, and in the end he concluded that, "?the stone carvings are a hoax of relatively recent origin."

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