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« on: December 03, 2016, 09:39:13 pm »
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The Knights' Gold book is finally out.  This book explains how 5,000 gold coins found underneath a Baltimore tenement house were connected to the secret Confederate society known as the Knights of the Golden Circle.

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2016, 04:32:34 am »
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So, it's a work of Fiction. Good one.

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2016, 01:11:22 pm »
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Golddigger, it is not fiction at all.  In 1934 two boys exploring a dirt cellar unearthed a copper pot containing 5,000 19th-century gold coins.  For many years it was assumed the treasure belonged to a wealthy miser who had passed away without retrieving the gold.  I have researched the case and found that the 19th-century owners of the home were connected to the top secessionists in Baltimore, and also to KGC leader Albert Pike.  Oh, and they also knew John Wilkes Booth, whose family home was just four blocks from the treasure site.

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2016, 01:18:35 pm »
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The Knights of the Golden Circle was a story made up in the 1920s for the New York Times as a serialized accounting. Before then the name was not used. Since then, the "stories" have been passed around and repeated but the group never truly existed. That's why those of us who have been around for a while call it fiction.

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2016, 01:46:09 pm »
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AN AUTHENTIC EXPOSITION
OP THE
"K. G. C"
"KNIGHTS OF THE GOLDEN CIRCLE;"
OR,
A HISTORY OF SECESSION FROM 1834 TO 1861.
ILLUSTRATED.
BY A MEMBER OF THE ORDER.
INDIANAPOLIS, IND.:
C. 0. PERRINE, PUBLISHER.
1861.

The KGC was also the subject of the 1864 "Holt Report" which was a government study on the threat the KGC represented to the Union.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 01:57:32 pm »
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Good grief. This is a prime example of what I am talking about. None of those books were in existence prior to 1920.

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2016, 02:11:57 pm »
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GoldDigger, the KGC was organized in Cincinnati in 1854 by George Bickley.  They merged with the Order of the Lone Star soon after and continued under the name the Knights of the Golden Circle.

Please see their Wikipedia page, and also the scholarly book put out recently by David Kheen, The Knights of the Golden Circle.

Obviously, Knights' Gold also contains many historical references, and these are all cited.

The KGC did go under a few different names, including the Sons of Liberty and the American Knights.  But they were almost universally known as the Knights of the Golden Circle.



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GoldDigger, the KGC was organized in Cincinnati in 1854 by George Bickley.  They merged with the Order of the Lone Star soon after and continued under the name the Knights of the Golden Circle.

Please see their Wikipedia page, and also the scholarly book put out recently by David Kheen, The Knights of the Golden Circle.

Obviously, Knights' Gold also contains many historical references, and these are all cited.

The KGC did go under a few different names, including the Sons of Liberty and the American Knights.  But they were almost universally known as the Knights of the Golden Circle.

Believe what you wish. Nobody has or ever will find any Confederate gold. The reason they surrendered was because they were out of money.

And the KGC did not exist until the 1920s when the story was made up to sell newspapers.

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2016, 09:44:31 am »
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GoldDigger, the South was low on funds but not out of funds . . . which is why the Confederate treasury and the wealth of five Virginia banks got loaded on the Jeff Davis train that fled Richmond in April, 1865.

The South surrendered because Richmond had fallen, their ports were blockaded, and the Southern generals were pressing Jeff Davis about the long-term hoplessness of the situation.  The South was not going to win and the carnage at that point was not only cruel but useless.

Many papers wrote about the Knights of the Golden Circle in the 1850s and 1860s.  Horace Greeley in New York wrote a scathing article about them.  Many of these articles are referenced in my book, Knights Gold.

The treasure in my story was buried before the war (in 1856).  The 5,000 gold coins were collected in advance of a planned invasion of Cuba that never took place.  The KGC wanted to add new slave territory to the South, and to add several Mexican states and Cuba to the U.S. just as the original Order of the Lone Star had gotten Texas added.

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2016, 11:40:05 am »
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GoldDigger, the South was low on funds but not out of funds . . . which is why the Confederate treasury and the wealth of five Virginia banks got loaded on the Jeff Davis train that fled Richmond in April, 1865.

The South surrendered because Richmond had fallen, their ports were blockaded, and the Southern generals were pressing Jeff Davis about the long-term hoplessness of the situation.  The South was not going to win and the carnage at that point was not only cruel but useless.

Many papers wrote about the Knights of the Golden Circle in the 1850s and 1860s.  Horace Greeley in New York wrote a scathing article about them.  Many of these articles are referenced in my book, Knights Gold.

The treasure in my story was buried before the war (in 1856).  The 5,000 gold coins were collected in advance of a planned invasion of Cuba that never took place.  The KGC wanted to add new slave territory to the South, and to add several Mexican states and Cuba to the U.S. just as the original Order of the Lone Star had gotten Texas added.


Why are you arguing about it, You are arguing with one of the most well Versed Treasure hunters on the Planet,,,

By all means share your views but don't try and convert the Converted,

95% of what you have posted is based on what others have Twisted it all to mean to suit them selves and SELL BOOKS, and those books are exactly like Chain Letters creating false hopes and Broken Dreams along with destroyed Marriages, We have seen it all here and even to the point of internet Wars breaking out because of it, So you need to be more open minded otherwise you will fall in to the same trap,,

The whole KGC is little more than a modern Romantic view that tries to turn everyday people in to hero's, They Never were and they Never will be.

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