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« on: April 04, 2013, 07:11:05 pm »
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   This one is 10 miles from my house.
ROXIE -- The legend of train robbers and buried treasure still lives in the hearts of many of Roxie's older residents.

 

Legend has it that in the late 1800s, train robbers were big in and around the area of the train line that ran between Hamburg and Natchez.

 

The best remembered group of bandits was lead by Jean Lafitte of Louisiana. Lafitte and his men were on the run from the law, so they decided to bury the loot they had stolen from train passengers.

 

At least that how the story goes, anyway.

 

Supposedly, the thieves buried their gold and jewels in a sugar cane cauldron in a wooded region somewhere between present day Roxie and Natchez.

 

Most of the robbers were caught and tried, but one free man stumbled onto the Earhart family farm. In return for the family's kindness, the thief gave them a map to the buried treasure. The robber died five days later.

 

The Earhart family, as the story goes, never tried to find the hidden loot because it was actually on the property of the Dromgoole family.

 

In later years, Tom Dove bought the land from the Dromgoole family. At his death, his son, Revah Dove, came into possession of the land.

 

Revah lived there and had the youngest Earhart as a neighbor.

 

When Earhart became ill, Revah cared for him. It was on his deathbed that Earhart gave Revah the map as payment for his good will and caring soul.

 

In 1927, Revah used a special instrument to detect the exact location of the cauldron and tried to retrieve it.

 

He managed to raise the treasure from its watery grave. But when the winch he was using broke, the chest fell back into the hole and slipped even lower into the ground.

 

Two other men, M. H. Bullock and W. R. Strickland of Laurel, started their own explorations to find the hidden loot. Once again rains came, and the chest slipped farther into the murky waters of the pond.

 

In 1957, diggers were five feet from the chest when a flash flood sent the cauldron deeper into the pit of quicksand. At this point, the hole was 100-feet deep.

 

The last attempt to find the items was made in 1966 by Bullock. Draglines, two diesel pumps and 65 well points were used to drain off water and to stabilize the sand. Just like the previous explorations, this attempt also failed.

 

Many residents believe there is something of a pirates' curse on the treasure.

 

"I believe that there was more gold put into the hole than what is actually in it," said Joe Ross of Franklin County. "I don't think that it is still there. I believe that it is long gone."

 

Ross backed up the story about all the explorations and the train robbers. Just like legends go, new information has been added over the years.

 

"From what I was told, Revah Dove had his hands on the chest, and he even opened it," Ross said. "He saw everything in the chest."

 

However, Ross said Dove left the treasure there and went to town to get help. Ross questioned the decision to leave the treasure.

 

"I'm sorry, but if I had my hands on it I would have taken some samples of it," Ross said. "I probably would have left the chest there and just taken as much of the gold bricks, coins and jewels out of there and put it in my pocket."

 

Ross said Revah Dove "made his living off the 'Gold Hole.'"

 

"He had stockholders giving him money to dig for the treasure," Ross said.

 

Ross recalled one night when everyone involved in the exploration "just left."

 

"They even had an escort leading them out of the location," Ross said. "Operations shut down for days. They came back, but all they did was play around. They didn't do any more serious work."

 

Ross still questions the gold's existence.

 

"I never have believed that the treasure was there, because there has not been any evidence to back it up," Ross said. "I think that it is all a hoax."

 

The treasure may be gone, but the Gold Hole legend lives on.

 

Beth Chapman

For the Brookhaven Daily Leader

June 26, 2000

 



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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 07:32:48 pm »
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The best remembered group of bandits was lead by Jean Lafitte of Louisiana.



Lafitte was long gone from the Gulf coast before the trains arrived in fact the whole story is 90% bull.

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 07:44:07 pm »
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Didn't even have to call in "The Wrecking Crew" to tear apart that one.....Jean Lafitte died in February, 1823.   The FIRST recorded train robbery in the United States was not until October 6, 1866.  In fact, the FIRST U.S. Railway wasn't even chartered until February 28, 1827---4 years after Lafitte died.

Of course, it is possible that someone may have adopted Jean Lafitte as a nom de guerre.   But on the surface the legend just does not smell right.  If you do want to explore this tale, IGNORE the Lafitte connection and concentrate on the other names following them backwards and verifying that the families DID actually live in the area when they were supposed to have.  If you can't verify those names, then forget it.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 07:47:10 pm »
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  I believe it to be bull myself but I do know that a lot of people spent a lot of money in that hole. You are right about pirates and the time period, I just posted the article. The last rumor about the gold hole was that a group from Japan came in an dug around and left in the night. More than likely they ran out of money.

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 07:53:08 pm »
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The last rumor about the gold hole was that a group from Japan came in an dug around and left in the night. More than likely they ran out of money.


I guess that's one conclusion you could come to.....I prefer the version where instead of taking stuff out of the hole, they left some of the Yamashita treasure they secretly retreived from the Philippinnes  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 08:42:20 pm »
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Here is a story that has a lot in common with yours. I am thing somebody mixed up their facts when retelling a legend. Trust me we see this kind of thing all the time.



First a pirate, then an outlaw. Treasure in Mississippi
Are you looking for a large iron cooking kettle? Maybe something to whip up a big batch of stew in? Would you prefer one that is filled with expensive jewelry, gold coins and other priceless items? I thought you would!

If you find yourself in Franklin County, Mississippi with nothing to do you might take a stab at recovering such a kettle. About four miles northwest of Roxie, MS is/was a farm owned by the Doves. According to legend there is a HUGE kettle buried on this farm that is filled with precious metals and jewelry. And when I say huge, I mean huge! This is described as being several feet wide. Where did it come from?

Pirates!! Arrrrrgg!! You knew I was going to do that didn’t you? This kettle is supposed to be one of six that were hidden by a crewman off of Jean Lafitte’s ship. Unfortunately for the crewman he was captured and hanged for his piracy activities before he could recover and spend any of his booty. The crewman had buried his six containers on a small island and these containers were supposedly found by an outlaw named Samuel Mason.

It is said that Samuel Mason added to this hoard with items he had stolen and then chose to bury it in a spot of his own for safe keeping. Mason took his family and three helpers to a spot on the Reber Dove farm and there the helpers dug a hole near an “artesian well”. The treasure was placed in the hole and covered over. Samuel Mason promptly shot the three helpers. The very next day Samuel Mason was killed by two of his own men trying to get a reward that had been placed on his head. It seems the two conspirators took this phrase literally because after they had killed Mason they cut off his head and took it with them to the courthouse as proof that the “notorious outlaw Samuel Mason” was dead.

As a side note, this didn’t turn out to well for the conspirators because when they got to the courthouse they were recognized by some people they had recently robbed so the two were immediately arrested. I’m telling you people, Karma, it will get you every time!

I should also point out that the other family members that were at the burial of the treasure apparently left the area rather quickly for fear that they might be killed or even arrested by the authorities.

Back to our lost treasure, in the late 1920’s a search was made for this treasure by Reber Dove, the owner of the property it was supposedly located on. Mr. Dove claimed that he had a map that was given to him by a dying neighbor who supposedly helped “an unnamed outlaw” bury the treasure. The neighbor had apparently been shot while trying to rob a train. Was the neighbor related to Samuel Mason? How else would he have a map?

According to Reber Dove’s mother, in 1927 Reber Dove had located the site that contained the large kettle but when he had dug down to it he ran into ground water and the kettle apparently “sank deeper into the muck” before he could get any of the treasure out. Mr. Dove made several more attempts to recover this kettle but couldn’t get to it because of the water problems.

Sometime later another man by the name of Elom Dodds attempted a recovery and it is said he was able to get to the top of the kettle where he used “tongs” to try and grab it and remove it from the ground. This attempt also failed as the kettle slipped from the grip of the tongs due to its massive weight and “disappeared in the water filled mire”. There were other attempts in later years to make a recovery but they all ended in failure.

So there you have it, a pirate treasure, arrrrrrg! that was found by an outlaw who moved it to a new spot where it was found by a man then lost, then found by another man and lost again. I would think there would be some pretty good newspaper stories on this one, maybe even some local history from the “old timers” in the area. All you have to do is figure out just how far it has sunk over the years and how you are going to get it out of a water and muck filled hole. Can anybody say backhoe?

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 11:34:38 pm »
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That story sounds a little more likely. Lotta names in the story should be easy to check out being local.

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Since when do Japanese run out of money?  They be the Superpower of the future?

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