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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2010, 12:09:38 pm »
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As promised I have collected some information about the supposed treasure of the Chartreuse of Villeneuve lez Avignon.

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To place the frame of this story, I recall the overwhelming evidence in this case known, namely:

- A set of 7 engraved stones  should be used as an indication of location,
- An engraved stone in the prior's cell ( see picture of Mister Hardluck on this forum ).
- Two stones engraved with directional arrows,
- A symbolic drawing with a set of signs.

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To all this must be added the historical elements relating to the Carthusians, as in terms of their order as that of the specificity of the past Villeneune-lez-Avignon


On the 7 stones engraved, they are all carved from the typical sign of the Carthusians, namely the world crucifers.

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The key stone of all others is that once stood near the bakery "Cabrion. It was found by treasure hunter called Joseph Canonge who moved into the courtyard of his house.

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Its original location was apparently unimportant it.Only his special graphics gave it indispensable to clarify the matter.

On one side, there is a cross monastery in its simplest representation, namely the sphere surmounted by a cross with equal arms whose ends are slightly unfolded.

It is usually topped 7 star (representing the founder of the Order of Saint Bruno and his six companions).

The engraved stones put up by the Carthusians in fact a dual purpose. First they define a local Carthusian Villeneuve-lez-Avignon. And then they determine the ownership of a building.

If the cross on a globe representing the Carthusian Order, lacrosse stick is the Benedictine order in the person of the Abbe de Saint-Andre.

The sole interest of the opposite side to cross the globe, is that it consists of six holes in the butt.

The answer appears to those who can easily understand. six holes correspond to the six faces of a dice. For the record, the sum of opposite sides gives the number seven, highly symbolic, because the initial number of founders of the Carthusian Order.

The solution to this riddle geometrical own the first seven engraved stones rests on two principles:
- Involve engraved stones in pairs to find the six faces of a dice.
- Make a reading in the direction of movement of the stock.
The result opens many questions, including one conclusion: in fact the initial position of the engraved stones of no importance.

That explains why tell these stones existed long before the French Revolution, donated the burial treasure of Carthusians, and they were used as support to a message that is really only symbolic and has nothing to do with their situation.

This message is also used in a device characterized by the number seven.

The next written deal of stone engraved with the "Prior's Cell"


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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2010, 05:50:16 pm »
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Could Sol be Latin perhaps refering to the sun in a certain position? It all looks like celestial alignments to me.

I haven't completely digested all this fun info yet, but definitely an interesting mystery.  Smiley

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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2010, 03:42:14 am »
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Hello All

Thank you Luc for your interesting posts as always.

It has answered many of my questions as well as created new questions. A real enigma this story.

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 01:37:49 pm »
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Hello Hardluck and Idaho Jones

There is also a way concerning the - SOL- inscription, can be somme thing about SOL FA MI RE DO.

Please wait for my next writing, I will try to give you some more links.

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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2010, 02:13:56 pm »
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I will try to get up to speed while waiting Smiley great stuff Luc!

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2010, 11:42:22 am »
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Hello all,

There the second part concerning Villeneuve lez Avignon.

The stone engraved with the prior's cell.

We find the center, the symbol of the World. Reminder: the motto of the Carthusians is - the world turns, but the cross remains --
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Appear as the following:
FA, SOL, LA and the number 7 inside the L.

In addition, the World (circle) is connected to a cross represented by the F set.

The number 7 is expressed twice, by the figure, and musical notes SOL and FA which obviously also express the concept of key.

For memory, the XI th century, a Benedictine monk, Guido d'Arezzo, had the idea to name the first six notes of the scale by using the first syllable of each verse of the hymn to Saint Jean Baptiste Paul Diacre.

UT QUEANT LAXIS, for - so that your servants -
RESONARE FIBRIS, for - may sing the -
MIRA GFESTORUM, for - wonders you have done -
FAMULI TUORUM, for - purify our lips -
SOLVE POLLUTI, for - unclean -
LABII REATUM for - of their sins -
SANCTE IOHANNES for - Saint Jean -

The notes set in stone cell of the prior are, moreover, keys, including key FA with two points which is also included in the crosse abbey located on one side of the first engraved stone.

The stones engraved with directional arrows.

Different researchers suggest in this case, three other stones with engraved directional signs.

In fact, two of these signs are really still engraved in the vicinity of Villeneuve-lez-Avignon.
The first sign, located against the north wall of the outer wall of the monastery, is an arrow pinnate on one side, leaving a sphere divided into three parts. This sign symbolizes the-key -.

It found, inverted, the geometrical structure of the location of the other six stones Devois. Unfortunately this stone was moved, and the direction it indicates is now closer to reality.

The second stone directional indication is in the building said - Hostel -
It represents a large circle with an arrow through the decorated side of the tip of a small circle and with the great circle of two lateral pinnae.

For its part, the large circle represents the World. The small circle is he, the observer (the person who looks in the direction), which is invited to see from the line representing the center of the arrow one point lying outside the visible space.

The sign said-Hostel - is located on a stone marking the entrance to a room. Now this stone is very steep. When we know the serious and meticulous work of the monks, it is surprising that this stone is tilted as can still be seen.

In reality, it was deliberately laid already inclined to give an angle to the sign.
This angle can find a unique relationship with the plan drawn on the skin of a mole (see my previous writing).

The plan says - the skin of a mole -

This plan contains two sides,

The first known - Geometric --

The sign said-Hostel - is located on a stone marking the entrance to a room. Now this stone is very steep. When we know the serious and meticulous work of the monks, it is surprising that this stone is tilted as can still be seen.


It shows the layout of an etail twelve branches. The angle of 30 ? is divided into an angle of 19 ? represented by the letter S. are the different symbols are figurative of:
- The so-called twin towers.
- The tower called masks.
- The abbey of Saint-Andre.
- The entrance to the church of the monastery and chapel of the Trinity.
- The Sacristan's cell with his observation watchtower.
- The well of the court's livery Giffone (with the letter F).
- The feel of the Chartreuse overcoming Fountain St. Jean Baptiste.
The entrance to a house of XVI century, an arrow representing the North, the Sun (SOLIS, is the musical note SOL).

The right angle triangle appeared on the map is the projected point by the sign placed at - Hostel-.

The second surface of the skin mole is called - Symbolic-.
It includes numbers, letters and signs. The message in Latin and especially Latin abbreviations, is not easy to approach.

It poses a conundrum, that of a clumsy writing, as laid out in an emergency. Many attempts at translation have led to hypothesize that the author would have been the prior Chrysanthus Paulin, between 1643 and 1646 in the middle period of the great buildings of the wealth of the Carthusians, especially those farms the old pond of Pujaut.

But the short length of the text, as well as the difficulty of finding sufficient frequency, do not support a thesis of an encoded text.

Good reading.

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2010, 05:28:21 am »
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Hello Luc

Thank you for the amazing research you have uncovered.

It is a very interesting theory.

If all these symbols created by the prior Chrysanthus Paulin, between 1643 and 1646?

And the 1789 - 1799 French revolution was the driving force that forced the monks to flee the monastery in haste?

There is about 144 years gap which I cannot understand the reasons and need behind elaborate system of symbols to hide a legendary treasure around 1646?

Was there any particular event between 1643 and 1646 that gave the monks a need to create an elaborate set of coded symbols to hide a location of treasure?

Very interesting and perplexing.

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2010, 05:14:20 am »
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Third party.

We know from two surveys conducted in 1790 and 1791 during the French Revolution that had the Chartreuse of Villeneuve-lez-Avignon, at the time, because there are differences between the two on some oak barrels and some objects. But mostly it is mentioned that gold and silver content in a medal. where is the rest?.

For the "rest" there, and be sure we have a subsequent inventory, conducted in 1743 by an itinerant priest, Father Soumille.

The difference with inventories revolutionary is eloquent.

Are hidden and alleged the following works;

- Two lamps with silver weighing 50 kilos,
- Four statues of silver weighing 120 kilograms,
- A golden statue of the Virgin
- A holy thorn in a silver cross,
- A golden chalice of the coronation of King Rene,
- Several shrines,
- A rare manuscript of St. Jerome
- An illuminated Bible of the thirteenth century,
- Two paintings by the master.

All of artistic value of nearly five million euros. Not to mention gold and silver in the possession of the Carthusians.

To date, only the paintings have reappeared.

These two paintings are:

- The - Trompe l'oeil Antonio Forbera (now the Museum Calvet d'Avignon).

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It was acquired by the Carthusians following a canceled order. It seems rather that the command was actually carried out secretly by the Carthusian brother Imbert.

This painting, the "trompe l'oeil", is an easel supporting a Poussin painting, a drawing of the same work, a sketch Perelle a portrait of Teniers and a landscape of Leclerc. It is signed: "ANT.FORBERA" and dated 1683.


and
- The fall of rebel angels of Boteri (now the Museum of Pont-Saint-Esprit).
It represents the descent into hell of the rebel angels who decided to follow Lucifer.


The selection of these paintings seems amazing when one knows the extent of works owned by Charterhouse.

Note that all the artists involved in these paintings bear a name of 7 letters:
- Poussin
- Perelle
- Teniers
- Leclerc
- Forbera
- Boteri

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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2010, 05:24:57 am »
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Hello Luc

Once again fascinating research.

Teniers and Poussin is very interesting the same two artists involved in the Rennes le chateau mystery.

Do you know It is David Teniers the Elder, David Teniers the younger. or David Teniers the grandson?

One thing I do not understand.....

The names of the painters are alleged to be seven letter names?

Boteri is in its current spelling is 6 letters?

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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2010, 06:02:06 am »
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Hello Hardluck,

Sorry for my mistake in a spelling of Boteri, his name is BOTERIE.

Concerning TENIERS it was DAVID.

You can have the history of this painting in this Internet address below:

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I agree with you that some painters are also in relation with the story of Rennes le Ch?teau.

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