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« on: March 08, 2010, 05:20:13 am »
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Hello All

Ali Pascha was a ruler of Io?nnina which is a region in Albania.

Ali Pascha operated as a semi-independent despot and pragmatically allied himself with whoever offered the most advantage at the time. In order to gain a seaport on the Albanian coast, Ali formed an alliance with Napoleon I of France who had established Francois Pouqueville as his general consul in Io?nnina.

After the Treaty of Tilsit, where Napoleon granted the Czar his plan to dismantle the Ottoman Empire, Ali switched sides and allied with the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in 1807. His actions were permitted by the Ottoman government in Istanbul for a mixture of expediency.

It was deemed better to have Ali as a semi-ally than as an enemy and the central Ottoman government in Turkey did not have enough strength to oust him at that time. This allowed him to become the robber king of Albania.

Ali's cruelty was well known in the Balkans: He was a remorseless tyrant, guilty of the most horrible cruelties, very brave, so good a general that they call him the Mahometan Buonaparte ... but as barbarous as he is successful, roasting rebels and any who opposed him.

Ali pasha amassed a massive wealth through extortion, murder and robbery. But time ran out for this murderous thief and the Ottoman Empire sent an assassination squad to assassinate Ali Pascha. In 1822 They tricked him into a meeting proposing another alliance where he was assassinated.

The Ottoman officials was never fully convinced that all of Ali Pascha's treasure was recovered. Legends still persist to this day that somewhere in one of his numerous castles and palaces lies a secret chamber with immense riches.

Was there ant truth to these legends. In the 1930's a search was made finding a secret tunnel with skeletons but no treasure. Was this the right location?

In another location where he built a castle an ancient treasure was discovered. Was this another earlier unrelated treasure?

The mystery still stands is there buried treasure of Ali Pacha some where in present day Albania?

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 09:37:24 am »
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ALLLLRIGHT==  tnx. Smiley Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 11:17:30 am »
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Another very interesting post, Hardluck.....I wonder if any of our members in the Balkans are working leads on Ali Pasha's treasure.

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 03:13:37 am »
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Hello All

Here is newspaper story dating from the 1930's.

Hardluck  Huh?

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 05:02:41 pm »
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hardluck,
  Very interesting!!  You posted a lithograph of the castle and the mountain range off to the left of this castle.  You may not realize this, but you may have posted a treasure map to the very treasure that you wonder about.
  As with "painting style" treasure maps, lithographs also were used to create a treasure map to a known treasure room.  Looking at the mountains there are several, although somewhat hard to see, treasure signs that show the very canyon to go into in order to locate this treasure room.
  The owl is one of the symbols used to point out this canyon that holds this treasure room, and one would certainly wonder how this symbolism came into the hands of this particular individual.  This question is answered, however, by your reference to the Napoleon family, who were well versed in this secret language.
  Thanks.....great reading!!!

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 10:01:36 am »
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Seems I can't post a link (yet?) but if you do a google-type search you'll find an article on e.g. hurriyetdailynews.com re a new search in Ioannina (Janina), Greece, by a Greek-Australian businessman named Vangelis Dimas (or google that).

Could be interesting!?!


Edit: Oops, the new dig's not in Ioannina, it's in Vassiliki, I think that's near Trikala.



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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 10:50:54 am »
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Here's the link, Maik. Interesting follow-up on the topic. Thanks for sharing it with us. Since you're a new member, I'm pleased to welcome you aboard! Sue

Search begins in Greece for Ottoman pasha's legendary hoard

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 06:15:11 pm »
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Hello All

Thank you Maik for the link and thank you Sue for coming to the rescue.

Please do post anything more you find on this topic as It is a story I find interesting.

There has been many places that have claimed his treasure.

His Palace
his Grave.
His fortresses.

Please let me know of any developments in Greece in regards to the story.

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 05:03:41 am »
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Yes, thanks Sue for adding the missing link.

Drilling has been going on for two days and so far without luck. Got down about 25 metres but hitting hard rock, they reckon they need to get down to about 35 metres or so to get into the (hoped for) vaults. Work has stopped for the weekend.

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Ali Pascha was a ruler of Io?nnina which is a region in Albania.

No wish to be petty but Ioannina is in Greece. Well, it is now and has been for a while. Greece as a nation only came into existence after the War of Independence which overthrew the Ottoman empire. Before that Ioannina probably was considered part of Albanian territory, but the population were always predominantly ethnic Greeks.



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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2010, 05:56:45 am »
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Hello Maik

Thank you for the correction "Just a typo between is and was".What I should of wrote "was" Today of course it is part of Greece.

In 1789 the city became the center of the territory ruled by Ali Pasha, an area that included the entire northwestern Greece, Thessaly and parts of Euboea and the Peloponnese. The Muslim-Albanian lord Ali Pasha was one of the most influential personalities of the region in the 18th and 19th century. How I understand it was only Albanian during the time of Ali Pasha there in 1789-1826. So it is most likely the was always a Greek population there.


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