The Treasure of Dunraven.

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Looks like it could all end up on the beach someday, due to the erosion :-)

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		Quote:			Posted by hardluck
	Hello Brendon Lyons It has been many years since I was there. If your are ever in that area it would be a good area to detect along the shore line at low tide. the Beach was eroded away leaving small gutters filled in with sand. Some of these gutters may yield some interesting finds if they haven't already been worked over. Exploring along the coast may also pay dividends. Hardluck

Nice story Hardluck, I can remember Alan Wilson talking to me regarding another more ancient story about Dunraven because one of King Arthurs most trusted knights is buried there on that rugged coastline.
In the Songs of the Graves this man is mentioned and his name is Sir Bedivere as we know him through Mallorys Morte D Arthur but his British (Welsh) name was Bedwyr.
The Songs of the Graves consists of only a few lines written in the most cryptic form and manner in Welsh of course, well it was their language. Because of this anyone would need to know the what the meanings were as written and also knowledge of the area concerned.  For this old maps which they have had to be used in order to identify the place.
Strangely enough the Old Brits were quite cunning people and used to name the fields that were of importance through that many of their discoveries were made.
In the songs of the graves this is what is written," The Tomb of the son of Ogryvran is in Camlan after much slaughter the tomb of Bedwyr is on the steep at Tryvan."   not much to go on.
What we are told is that Bedivere was killed at the Battle of Camlan when King Arthur was forced to destroy hi nephew Mawdred or Mordred. We are told he lies at Camlan which is still there a few miles south of Dollgellau in a steep winding valley. it seems we are seeking a tomb on a steep hill or slope.  There is such a tomb near Nant Gweinion near Mallwyd.  They cannot identify any other tumulus grave in the area at all.  This is the gave of Arthurs brother in law. As Bediveres father is named as Ogyryvran and Arthur married the daughter of Ogyrvyran named Gwenhwyfar as one of his three queens.
This history is accurate. The Grave of Brewyr who is the Sir Bedivere of the romance novels, is in Tryvran and on a steep. Tryfran is Dindryfran which is an ancient Glamorgan Castle. It is now known as the meaninless English Dunraven Castle at Southerdown on the Glamorgan coast. It is here that a huge burial ship mound can be found and that is the grave of Sir Bedivere Arthurs close friend.
Numerous Welsh Kings were buried in the same style in boat shaped burial mounds these are scattered throughout Wales in many places.  I had been researching Sutton Hoo for many years and slowly and surely parts of a huge jig saw were slowly coming together.
You can find my version of the Sutton Hoo treasure in the Myths section on the forum.  It consists of several parts all of which must be read till the end or it can be taken out of context.
When Sutton Hoo was discovered it was promply identifed as being SAXON by the Archaeologists which to me was a false identification.  Much research was needed before I was able to correctly identify this great ship as being British not Saxon and I had to do it in such a manner that it would be hard to dispute. Therefore the whole matter had to be gone over with a microscope in order to put everything into its correct perspective because the Establishment would love to tear anything to shreds in order to protect themselves. They would use anything within their resources to discredit anyone who goes against what they were taught and would fight tooth and nail using any dirty trick to do it too in order to protect their fat salaries and pensions they get.
But I leave it up to the reader to decide for themselves after all thats what the Sutton Hoo treasure tells me.
Alan Wilson told me years ago there used to be a large board giving the geneology and lineage of all the Kings of Britain at the car park at Dunraven.  Shortly after they started producing books including Artorious Rex Discovered the authorities swiftly removed that board and it has never been replaced.  This is the mentality of the English Governed Wales that does not want a tourist industry and does not want the true lineage of British Kings revealed because of the present Monarch. 
Now go read the Sutton Hoo story and enjoy hehehe regards alan hassell

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	I have to really prod the old memory cells in which I cannot seem to recall the full story.I think  from my poor memory further it east along coast in fact around Newport Goldcliff area? I can remember he was told they the stone coffins were from the so called dark ages. Further west from South Down, Dunraven, Porthcawl some where in between Kenfig pool Margam Burrows there an alleged buried village under the sands.I often wondered back then if there was any truth to those village legends. As you well know an interesting place in the world with many hidden secrets to tell.

Hi Hardluck,
love that name is speaks your personality all over hehehe (joking) this all ties in with the recently discovered settlement around the Newport area which was devastated by the Comet of AD 562 and the deluge that followed the impending Tsunami that hit the Welsh coast.  It is unknown how many other coastline areas were affected by this event.
By using Google Earth I was able to find perfectly laid out roads quite similar to well laid out cites that we are familiar with today with streets and housing blocks.  Without such tools as Google earth places such as this might never have been discovered because the authorities wouldnt want the general public to even have a clue about past history and what it can reveal.
Of course since that incident of the Comet there has been much development and redevelopment taking place all over that vast area which in turn has hidden the tell tale scars of yesterday.
However those unexplained scars remain and will do until some moronic idiot in a council will turn these areas into another housing estate or industrial estate in order to hide the stories these places tell us.
There was no dark age really that is another invention of the Establishment to cover up all the well documented history of a once proud Kingdom where King Arthur reigned supreme until the Comet struck and destroyed the 3 to 5 million strong force of the British Nation.  The land was uninhabitable for between 7 to 11 years for some reason. Madoc Arthurs brother was at sea when the Comet struck and was swept off course and continued to sail West where he discovered America.
Ten years later Madoc returned with great tales of this marvellous new land called the otherworld. Arthur sent out an investigatiing party when they returned with good news Arthur arranged for between 600 and 700 ships to take his people to this new land where the climate was good. unknown to them at the time, the Comet had caused on problem of which they had no cure Syphillis which was passed onto the American natives.  Once they infected a few the natives became hostile and this may of been the trigger that caused the native indidans to Kill Arthur with their arrows as depicted in the death of Arthur in the myth section.  It makes sense and is logical.  Arthur was mummified his body wrapped in layers of deer skin and returned to Britain in order his sons could regain the kingdom. The Saxons in the meantime were able to just freely walk into Britian undisturbed as it was virtually deserted and uninhabitable.  There were no wars the Saxons claim they had won thats all bullshit invented by the establishment to make them look good. Maybe they did not like the fact that the British were descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Isreal (jews) and persecuted them just as the Nazis did in WW2?  This looks like the case to me because even today the Establishment does not want any of this revealed. So it makes one wonder and question why the establishment, its historians and archaeologist refuse to read and go by what the old documents tell us. Instead they read modern writings which are falsifications or Real British history and explains why they tried to turn the Legand of King Arthur into a Fairy tale, myth like character that never existed.  Arthurs legand was too big and powerful for that to ever happen. Slowly and surely like all good detective stories the truth was eventually revealed.
The problem is how does the Establishment get out of this one Gunga Din?  As usual turn a blind eye, bury their stupid heads in the ground and pretend nothing happened as usual.  They want to protect their own skins and wallets Greed is a terrible thing even if it means living a lie.



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