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« on: December 26, 2009, 06:52:37 am »
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Hello all

Here is another legendary treasure island in another far flung place at the end of the world.

There is an island in the lower South Atlantic that is still a tiny out post of the past British Empire called Tristan da Cunha. It is a Volcanic barren and windswept island at first glance you would not think habitable. But there is a very hardy group of islanders that have lived there for nearly 200 years, only briefly evacuating the island after a eruption in the 60's.

This peaceful but remote island has not one but two treasure stories connected with it. The Island was first populated by a man called Johnathon Lambert and the first story is connected to him. Johnathon Lambert and another man called Corrie lived on the island before 1816. When The British annexed the Island they only found Corrie there. They suspected he had murdered Lambert, but had no proof.

Later as the settlement grew stories were told about how Corrie went to certain part of the island and came back with gold coins.Corrie was a drunk and always had money for drink. In his intoxicated state he would talk about buried treasure.Whatever the truth of the story old Corrie died unrepentant.

The second story is of a treasure on more firmer ground  that is dated from the American civil war. A clipper called the Lark Captain Summer was being used as a blockade runner chased by the United States navy to Tristan da Cruna where on one of the islands the ship was scuttled and the treasure amassed by years of trading by captain Summer was buried.

Captain Summer enlisted the help the Mate to bury the treasure called Charles Henderson. An agreement was allegedly made to share the treasure. But as they were rescued captain Summer fell ill and died. It took 33 years before Henderson could return to the island and recover the treasure.

Henderson lived quietly for a time until the day arrive a long lost son of Captain Summer came to him claiming his fathers share of the treasure. There is 1900 newspaper report of the proceeding of the claims at a trial in the County Court of Jackson in the United States.

Two treasures one lost in hearsay stories lost mists of time and the other the subject of a courtroom drama. Is perhaps more than enough excitement for the hardy population of islanders who for many years did not use any currency at all in perfect bliss of a world that has passed them by.

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2009, 06:28:42 pm »
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Hi Hardluck, enjoyed the Tristan da Cunha legend and, as usual, causing me to look for a little more info on places I've never heard of before. Location on world map, what they used for currency (potatoes  Smiley ) etc. Then on wiki, I started looking at the other islands - Inaccessible to see if it still was, etc. Anyway, I found this on Nightingale Island and thought I'd share it with you. Sue
  "Nightingale has been said to contain pirate loot. Captain John Thomas, on an expedition to the South Atlantic, left a fortune of Spanish doubloons and pieces-of-eight in caves on Nightingale for safekeeping. However, no recovery of this treasure (if it is there) has ever been confirmed."

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2009, 09:31:40 pm »
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Hello Sue

Thank you for the added bit of info. Another story to add to the treasure legends of Tristan da Cunha group.

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 08:54:57 pm »
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hi,
just a wee piece on the Johnathan Lambert mentioned which i managed to find.

5th Jan 1811....H.M.S. Nerus (cpt Peter Heywood) bound for China, visits Tristan, where were found three american settlers, preparing sealskins and oil. They were Johnathan Lambert, Thomas Currie (corrie) and a seaman named Williams.

6th Jan 1811...The American sailing ship Baltic bound for Dunbar, calls in at Tristan.

Baltic and Nerrus both sail same day for each ships destinations.

28th Jan 1811... Cpt Benjamin Seaver, master of the merchant vessel Charles belonging to W.W. Bird, Esq calls for water at Tristan

" having understood, too , ashort time before leaving Rio De Janeiro that a man by the name of Johnathan Lambert, a native of the U.S. of North America was about to establish himself on the larger island of Tristan Da Chuna Islands, Cpt Seaver lets 1st his officers land with some men in order to procure water for the ship and they found this man Lambert, with two other companions (Tommaso Corri, Williams) who they said they had landed there 20 days previous to the arrival of the Charles cpt seaver landed too, afterwards, on the beach of a deep cove open to the north side of the island.

29th Jan 1811, The Charles sails away.

29th/30th Jan 1811, the sailing ship Queen Charlotte calls at Tristan. One of her seamen, Andrew Millet , lands and decides to settle with the lambert party.

Posted on: March 06, 2012, 07:29:31 PM
Johnathan Lambert, writes a manifesto to the world, which he sends on a ship back to Rio de Janerio where it was published in the Cape newspapers, and also in the Boston Gazette 18th July 1811.

It is recorded that the death of johnathan lambert, of williams, and of seaman andrew millet 17th may 1812

"on this tragic occurrence we will never be able to know the truth , because the only surviving man on the lambert party, tomasso corri, never clearly or satisfactorily explained it to the first real settlers of Tristan du chuna. and to the members of the british garrison which in 1816 occupied the island, and he died without giving more details than that of those he repeatedly used to give, and rather conflictingly in their brevity"

these are his original versions

1. lambert and his companions met their deaths while fishing along the surf beaten rocky shore of the island.

2.that the 3 men got discontented(corri never said anymore, nor why) and left in a boat for the neighbouring island inaccessible island, and that he had heard nothing more of them

3.that the 3 men perished at sea when out fishing.

"but according to various testimonials of the soldiers of the british garrison under the command of cpt cloete and especially W Glass , the cpl of artillery who had known corri for some time, all suspected that there was foul play in lambert and his companions deaths, and the old drunkard corri was a mere pirate , who for the lust of gold and soveriegnty had probably murdered the men. in fact corri remained for about 4 years 1812 - 1816 his death. "

Posted on: March 06, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
As for the 2nd possible treasure hardluck mentions, this can be twisted or contorted by tales especially with the other alledged treasure within the Tristan de Chuna island group on Alboran island.As already told on another topic in this section. but admittedly the names differ.

24th December 1864

The clipper built brig "lark" (master William H. Summers) , runs into a storm near Tristan, where she is sighted by a man o war, runs ashore and scuttled. Cpt Summers and his first mate Henderson suceed in getting a chest containing thier fortune as privateers and live some time with the islanders until taken aboard a sailing vessel. Summers dies on his way home.
Cpt Henderson on the sailing ship "Rover" returns to Tristan with the chart left by Summers and rediscovers the chest, he then returns to New Orleans.

October 1900

It appears that on the 1st days of the month the yacht "Kwasinel" (formerly the New York pilot boat "Elbridge T. Gerry) sailed from New Orleans, La to search for treasure said to had been buried by pirates on Tristan or on Nightingale Island. On board was a certain Charles A. Spenny, who returned to New Orleans with a chest filled with boullion. He never let anybody know where the chest had been found, whether on tristan or nightingale island, some people considered the finding of this treasure a hoax, while others relate the possiblity on what is known about Cpt W. H. Summers and his 1st mate Henderson.

so is the alboran island a spin on this one or of nightingale island, or is it another treasure?



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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 02:08:51 am »
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Hello Wuzneme

The Alboran island treasure story is unconnected to the nightingale island treasure story. Why it was alluded to in the Newspaper story like it was I am not sure.

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 07:05:31 am »
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Hi,

Perhaps if any treasure were still on Tristan Da Cunha, dependant of where ever it was buried, will likely be hidden even deeper.

Sept 9th 1924
" A great avalanche of stones and boulders falls from every side of the peak with terrific thundering noise. Though alarmingly there were no human casualties. Since 1922 so many stones and boulders have fallen that the island looks quite different."


All the above was written in The Annals of Tristan Da Cunha by Professor Arnaldo Faustini and with contributions by his family.

It covers from 1506  right through to 1905.

A nice read on the history of the island, its inhabitants, and the perils for shipping, along with the strategic location, for passing fleets.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 05:58:40 pm »
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Hello Wuzneme

Some nice references.

 The earlier Tristan Da Cunha treasure legend is based on very obscure references on corri being a pirate? However the time frame he was on the island 1811-1816 was a period of calm after the Nepolionic wars and during the British American War of 1812. It could be possible they had plundered an unknown ship that might of been the source of Corris aleged coins? Perhaps that was the motive for getting rid of the others?

You make a good point about landslides? Tristan De Cunha had a major volcanic euruption I think in 1960-1961 where parts of the island was changed dramatically.

As for Captain Henderson I think actually happened. Because I have a later newspapers stating the Son of Captain Summers put a claim through the courts to get half of the treasure recovered by Captain Henderson. If this is so then we perhaps have a authenticated story where a treasure map has been used to recover treasure?

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 06:32:22 pm »
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Hi Hardluck,

was looking at your recent post and had a wee look at what ships are mentioned, it is pretty bleak from 1804 til 1810.

However, 1803, could raise a curious thought or two.

oct 1803
The American Cpt Amasa Delano with the sailing ships "perseverence" & "pilgrim" from New York bound for Van Diemens land, Australia, circumnavigating the entire group of Tristan. He lands afterward on the south side of the main island, and walks several miles around to the eastward, and some distance to the westward. He collects a large supply of fresh water from the river on the north coast.

following day
 Delano lands on Inaccessible island

In the same year, month and day of Delano`s landing on Tristan, a whaling ship calls at Tristan. Cpt Nathenial Dorr, her master, lands on the island. Cpt Delano does not give the name of the whaler commanded by Dorr.

Is this worth a potential check up? why no mention of ship name? why go walkabouts , if he already knew a water supply? checking for inhabitants? or looking for locations? was corri a crew member from this? no mention of when he arrived on the island? or am i just barking up the wrong trees?

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 03:32:38 am »
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Hello Wuzneme

Check everything. Shake the tree of knowlege and see what falls out. Cheesy

Nathenial Dorr was a respected sea captain who married into Bradley family. A prominent Boston family where he took control over the finacial running of the family business. He married Penelope Emily Bradley and later became a respected east coast trader. His company Dorr and Co was involved in sealing, whaling and trading venture. He own a ship called the Boston in 1816 and his sons John and ebenzer continued the family tradition also along the Pacific North west. Nathenial Dorr,was perhaps just on a sealing expedition around 1803.

The American Cpt Amasa Delano with the sailing ships "perseverence" & "pilgrim" might of been scouting for sealing expedition?

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 01:21:33 pm »
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Hi Hardluck ,

the "perserverence & pilgrim" sailing ships were heading for van diemens lands.

in 1803 that area was colonised by the british for a penal colony was it not? Which in turn became part of New South Wales.

so the scouting for the whaler might not work?

  a guess here could hint of prisoners onboard. (did America send prisoners to N.S.W.?)

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