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« on: September 29, 2010, 07:00:21 am »
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You can find it on this page, scroll a bit down

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Looks like there is a lot of things in there, cables , software etc.

What is there left to "develop" ? Must you build in this unit in a waterproof non-magnetic wand or something ?

I am also a bit qurios about this software what it is. It could look like it is an old fashioned A: floppy disk that lies in that case, can't be ? Shocked

Can't really find much about this kit. I am interested in this cause I'm trying to find an underground object, but I do not feel tech savvy enough to build any of these projects listed here and on geotech1. The price on this was not so bad, about 700usd, if it is not to much trouble to get it up and go.
I also wonder if this more of a thing for  predicting auroras and lab use or if it really is useable in field for finding stuff. Seems like you must bring your computer along anyway, wont it disturb the sensor if you carry it in your lap doing the research ?

Does anybody know anything about this unit? Could be interesting to know before I rush into buying it. If it is covered before, excuse me for starting a new topic, but I havent found so much searching for this unit anywere.

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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 12:09:58 pm »
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It's not a stand alone unit. Ideally, a magnetometer will develop a 3D image. Using 3 (or more) of them in an array would do that from the instant you turn it on. Using one of them requires that you use it and record the readings across location, distance and time domains. Complicated stuff. Thus, it is called a development kit.

From the perspective of it working to detect anomalies, you are right. It already works.

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Do you understand it so that this kit includes some kind of datalogger and it can be displayed on the computer with the software following ?

It says it is x, y z axis? I undertsand it so that the flux is a vector in 3D space, force and direction, but all this about resolutions and measurements in gauss, and tesla, and nanotesla en so makes me really confused. So this may be a gradiometer then ? But should not there be more sensor spaced apart ?
 detectin an anomaly then be detecting the strength of the deviation, why do I need to know any direction of it, if it is a buried treasure ? Probably a stupid question Idiot 
 
 some spec from a datasheet ;

Field range: ?2 Gauss
Flexible: Microcontroller-based sensor
system with RS232 or RS485 interfaces.
Simple to use: Just plug and play
Field resolution: <70 μGauss
Accuracy over ?1 Gauss: <0.5% FS output
rate selectable: 10 to 154

I may mail Honeywell and ask what their software etc contains, if they bother answer me.

It is not powered from the PC, but has a PC- interface. Seems like some  original aviation stuf these products. You think it is useable in field ?

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The sensor itself is able to sense in the x,y and z axis. That doesn't mean three dimensional. It means only from the sensor itself. Imagine you were sitting inside of the sensor with one eye covered with a patch. You can look up, down, and sideways very rigidly through three tubes and are asked to describe something that is behind a square of paper that blocks your view in one direction. Since one eye is shut, you have no idea in reality how far away that item is and how large it really is. It could be right next to you and be only an inch square. Or it could be a yard away and be a yard square. Since a one eyed viewpoint is limited to two dimensions, that's all you have at your disposal regarding your environment.

Now, uncover the blinded eye and use two tubes in each direction, one for each eye, and you can now tell how big the square is and how close it is. Also, as you scan around you in your three directions other things become evident from having two sensors.

When I suggested 3 or 4 sensors working in tandem, that was to increase your area of sensing and to fine tune the result. With 4 eyes in your head, you'd be far better able to see things and analyze them. Give your project 4 "eyes" and it will pay dividends.

There's a trade magazine called Sensors magazine. When I was designing projects, that magazine was an amazing resource. You owe it to yourself to see if it is still in publication. It's free to qualified individuals and companies. Well, we're in luck. It's still around and you can sign up on the web. How's that for convenient?

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As to recording the data, that's meaningless with one sensor. It's a single datapoint and nothing more at this point. That's why they call it a development kit. Take your sensor, spin it around slowly on a wheel with binary encoding and your readings might be more useful. Then you'd have many datapoints which are tied to a location in angular direction and distance from the center of the wheel. A good start but 4 sensors would be much easier.

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