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« on: March 31, 2010, 08:12:28 pm »
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I work for a high voltage testing company.
We are often called in to fault locate under water power cables. I have equipment that can tell where a fault is in the cable length.

Unfortunately after a cable has been on the ocean floor for a while it tends to go 'missing'. I've seen towed magnetometers used with varying degrees of success to locate these lost (de-energized) power cables.

Now for my real question, if I was able to flow an electric current down a buried underwater cable, would it make it more visible to a magnetometer? How much current do we think it would need? Would I need to return the current through the sea water? as presumably if I passed current down a shield and returned it up a center conductor wouldn't the magnetic field be canceled out?

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 02:43:12 pm »
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In principle, all those cables are shielded using thick steel bands. This presents a large mass of magnetic material to a sensitive PPM given the length of the cables. I am sure that a PPM can detect such a cable at a distance of 10m. I do not think it is necessary to push any current through it.

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Now, obviously, if the cable is not cut and if you can push a DC current into it, it would generate more magnetic affect than just its steel shield bands. The current MUST be DC but it need not be high to make the same effect as a permanent magnet. It would be necessary to make a few simulation out of water first to measure the effect of increasing current values at increasing distances and plot those results.
It is an interesting idea to experiment with.

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 03:37:29 pm »
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Often the problem we come across is that there may be more than one cable lying in the area. This is especially true of oil fields, but can occur anywhere there's under water cable, as they are all generally layed along the same routes. One of the reasons for wanting to push some current through our cable of interest was to try and make it more visible than the ones we're not interested in.

We could actually use the steel armor as a conductor, if this would make a greater anomaly than using the actual cable inside.

Even if the cable is cut I can push current down the armor and use the sea water as the return path, it just requires a higher voltage supply. The only type of current that could practically be applied is DC, as the capacitance of the cable, or armor requires a lot of power to energize it.

Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 03:50:16 pm »
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You're looking at this as if the application of such current is trivial. You'd need to energize it with a tremendous amount of current and would not really increase the detectability much at all. Use an AC digitally signed signal and use the EMF from that to find just your cable. Toss the magnetometer and use the same things spies use to infiltrate your computer. A sensitive receiver would work wonders.

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