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	Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « on: August 13, 2009, 06:46:28 pm »

Hello all.. I just purchased a Garrett Sea Hunter XL 500 Pulse yesterday from a very interesting man yesterday. While making my purchase we started discussing lost treasure at sea.. and he told me about a meeting with Mel Fisher many years ago. Mel showed Joe his Atocha finds?..he discussed in detail about the rare and expensive emeralds that Mel found and about how they looked and felt in his hands.. He also showed me a lot of pictures of his dad, who was part of Jacques Cousteau underwater filming crew (He is currently selling the housings as well) This guy is for real... Well anyways I started talking how unfortunately that we have no cool local treasures to hunt..... Then is told me... There are buried treasures he in San Diego.. I gave a puzzled look and he began to tell me about the history of parts of San Diego and this Big Oak tree with markings... very old markings.... He pulled out a book "Coronado?s Children -Tales of lost mines and buried treasures of the southwest" by J. Frank Dobie and pointed to the marking in which was on the tree. I am from San Diego... grew up here and never heard about these... I have tried to find some pictures out there of what it could possibly look like and find very few pictures or information about them.... He did pull out a Thomas Bros map and showed me the location of the tree markings... I know the area well and plan on checking it out... He did mention other trees with marking as well... I did find a little history that the area was used by the Spaniards as a grazing area.. and there is an old gold mine in the area... that the entry is a mere crawl space then a tunnel. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with tree markings and knows what to look for as I don't have the spot pinpointed just an estimated position along a creek and distance from tree to creek. I am going to visit the spot very soon and will take pictures of my finding... I'd really like hear from anyone that has seen or studied these....

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 06:54:38 pm »

Don't forget the Lost Dutchman mine!

Treasure stories abound in all of Southern California, mate. Don't be surprised when someone mentions Pegleg Pete to you with a serious face. There have been tricksters all over the place piling up cairns of rock just to make you think there really is a treasure.

My thoughts on this are much along the lines of many professional treasure hunters. Go for those small ones. You know what I mean. You're at a birthday party for Gran who is 92 years old. When you mention to her that you are a metal detectorist and she tells you about her grandpa and his jars of gold coins, pay really close attention. Those are the real treasures out there. All those big ones are most likely found - quietly. But do check it out. Who knows? There may be a ducat or two left behind.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 10:06:52 am »

Hi Ksightler, I can try and help if its spanish they they marked both on trees and rocks. If you get pictures i will do my best to help you.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 03:38:36 pm »

look forward to seeing some pictures. i have some spanish symbolism books. there is alot of stuff hidden down san diego way ive heard of. including a spanish galleon that sank off oceanside that hasnt been found except for recently a few gold coins have been found washed up in the surf that experts now think that the hull of the ship has rotted and exposed the coins. also read of some captains going ashore near san diego and oceanside to hide loot and return to ship to sail up to san francisco. chad

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #4 on: March 27, 2011, 10:22:12 am »

There's supposed to be a hidden church treasure out in Julian. If I remember the story right, there's been two crosses found on rocks that carved into it. No one can find the third one.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #5 on: March 27, 2011, 10:36:32 am »

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There's supposed to be a hidden church treasure out in Julian.

TC if you are going to reply to 1 1/2 year old post you need to add more info on what you are talking about. What church treasure when was it hidden why you think marks were used.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #6 on: March 27, 2011, 01:33:29 pm »

Sorry guys, I'm new to this site, and I'm not sure how to use it.

Anyways, to elaborate on my story here a bit.

I believe The church is in the town of Santa Ysabel near Julian. I've been to the church/mission. It is old, and there's really nothing around it. Hard to miss. The story goes that the priest buried a few million bucks in gold there, and left Santa Ysabel to go to San Diego. On the way to SD they were killed by indians. Somewhere by the church is a large rock with a cross on it. Legend has it that there's two more rocks somewhere out there with crosses on them leading to the treasure.

That's all I know. I read it in a book. I think it was called "There's GOLD in Southern California." I don't remember who wrote it. There's actually a few treasure stories in that book located near San Diego.

I'll try to find active topics that I can post in that aren't a year and a half old. I didn't know it was old.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #7 on: March 27, 2011, 02:38:34 pm »

	Quote:	Posted by treasurechest
I'll try to find active topics that I can post in that aren't a year and a half old. I didn't know it was old.

The age of a good topic don't matter you just need to be a little more informative when post on old threads. Hey this is a good thing might bring this thread back to life.

Posted on: March 27, 2011, 02:31:32 PM

This the one you talking about? There was a novel written call the The treasure of Santa Ysabel based in a small way about the treasure hidden there, but the novel has also muddied the water for researchers.

And remember "If you believe everything you read you are reading to much."

Slightly over a mile north of the town of Santa Ysabel, on State Highway 79, is the site of the chapel of the Santa Ysabel Asistencia of the San Diego Mission, established in 1818 by Father Fernando Martin. A brush hut thrown up in that year as a temporary chapel was replaced a few years later by a substantial adobe building. For years after the rest of the church had disappeared one of the mud walls remained and, in spring, was used to form one end of an improvised chapel of brush and reeds, where mass was said for the Indians. The mission bells, said to be the oldest in California, hung the year round on a wooden frame of logs, to call the faithful to worship at that one time. The bells have since been stolen. At Santa Ysabel Kearny's command stopped the night before going into action at San Pasquale The church, then owned by an English rancher, gave the soldiers shelter from the rain. Some say that wine they were served here contributed to their defeat. There are many tales of buried treasure at Santa Ysabel, partly because of confusion with the mythical Mission Santa Ysabel of Lower California, where the Jesuits were supposed to have secreted a fabulous treasure. There are also stories of a cache left here by a miser. The present chapel stands just to the south of the historic site.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 05:47:22 pm »

No, I've heard about the lost bells of Santa Ysabel, but that's not what I was talking about. After doing a little bit of research, I found the book I was talking about. "It's called Where to find gold in Southern California"

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It has treasure stories, and actual locations where you can pan for gold. It's a fun book to read, and I plan on buying a copy of it soon.

I read the story of the lost gold of Santa Ysabel in this book. When I pick up a copy of it, I might type part that chapter up so everyone can read it.

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	Re: Spanish Treasure or Cache Markings on trees or rocks « Reply #9 on: March 27, 2011, 06:06:08 pm »

I think I have are had the book if I can find it will scan the story and post it.

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