The Spanish,Jesuits,Indians,and the Mexican miners

The Spanish, Jesuits, Indians, and the Mexican miners    The Spanish have been every where, Places that haven?t ever been documented , and yes there are major trails they took. But from those trails they  sent parties out in all directions in search for the cure for  their heart, which was Gold. Along the way they would get Indians to help fine gold , by teaching a few what to look for, intern those few taught others. The Spanish were masters at the art of markers, symbols, and sings, they work with light and shadows. When they found a Good rich area to work, they would get as much as they could  then conceal it and place their markers and symbols. The reason for this was so when they or their successors came back they could find and work the mines. The Mexican miners and the Jesuits along with the Spanish markers , symbols, and sings were very much the same. Remember  the Spanish were first with the Jesuits and the Mexican miners came after using many of the same sings, and the ways to locate  the mines . You need to have a good  imagination  of what they are trying to tell you, by reading their sings. A lot of time you just need to put yourself in their place. Example, Where wood you camp, where wood you put a look out. A lot of the concealed mines can be found by following the eye catchers . Usually one is up high on the hill or mountain, then a lower one. Making a imaginary line from one to the other  well  point to the mine. The Indians use their own sings as like animals and arrows, and always something pointing to the gold. Pointers can be  tree limbs or boulders . One time a friend told me of a old mine high in the mountains where from the tailings he found a rock with a vine of gold in it. He took me to the foot hills and ask me where I thought we should go ( he was testing me) I look up high and saw the boulder pointing the way and said up that way, he said that?s right. So  about 2 hours later  we were on top and again he ask were to now. I  looked and saw a cactus with one of its limb was cut in a way that it was pointing  the way to go . And again I was right. Then I stopped him  and told him where the mine was. He was surprised and ask me how  I know, I told him I saw that cactus next to it with the top cut off. A lot of people  don?t believe that there are markers and pointers to show you the way until some one shows them. I hope this little story may help others  to fine what they are looking for. Also I believe I know the area where the 7 cities of gold is at. And the location of the Iron door, all here in Arizona. Also a mother load mine that the Indians have covered up . The story to all these I would be happy to share. It just takes time and  for someone  that has the time and hard work to go into these. This is Graywolf  from Arizona Saying GOOD LUCK


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Hi there Golddigger, peoples opinons are not a problem to me. true there are trail markers just to show the trail they take . example of what i am taking about. take a look at the pictures of the Peralta Stones i put up . you,ll see signs and symbols that make a map. there would,nt be books on sings and symbols if there was,nt any out there.i,ve read alot of history on this. the Indians are the only ones i know that uses arrows, but thats not all nether.The spanish put up death traps in some of thair mines and uslly they put signs and symbols to let you know. signs and symbols do lead you to Treasure. Dont get me wrong, there are lost treasues  that you just have to look for becouse no one made any markers or symbols. chack out some of the pictures i have put up. thanks again hope to hear from you again.. Graywolf

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	Think like you were the one hiding it. What would you do to keep it both secure and accessible only to you or trusted others. Would you really scratch the directions on a map? If you answer this one in the affirmative, then I can understand why you believe that the scratches are treasure marks. If you really think about it and answer in the negative (as most would), then you might get a glimmering of why serious treasure hunters look elsewhere for clues to hidden wealth.

Great post, Goodldigger.

Take in point the Lost Dutchman mine.  The real seekers don't worry about no maps or symbols scratched onto rocks.    They search for mine trailings, the waste of mining operations and magnetometer readings from deep in the ground seeking cavities that might suggest old tunneling.

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Graywolfs, any of us who are here and not asking for help are giving it. It's not that I feel that I know all there is to know that keeps me from asking for help. There's something else inside me that some here really don't have or understand. I see a puzzle and I break it down into human understandable logic questions. For example, why would anyone leave such a map as you have in your second post in this thread? It's logical to assume it is either a map to something - at the moment unknown - or a false trail so something - again unknown.

As a person who has actually hidden treasure, I can assure you that it's quite a huge problem of how to make sure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands. The first thing you would not do is mark directions on a map. Unless it was for someone following behind you who would recover it before anyone else saw the map. That's the only condition a treasure hiding person would leave a public map. This isn't guessing. This is fact. There is never a good enough reason to leave a map exposed to the world that leads to your treasure even if it is deeply encoded. It makes no sense at all. Why not take your treasure and scatter it along the ground all the way to the last bit of it?

Have your fun. Chase down all of those map leads on the rock. I encourage you to do that because each step of the way will make you a better treasure hunter. Match that image to a Google maps image and see what you find. Please understand that I am not discouraging you from proceeding but offering you the understanding that I have regarding the psychology of the person hiding treasure. In treasure hunters' zeal, they often overlook the obvious. Sometimes a map is just a map. They do have a purpose. To get you from point A to point B and allow others behind you to do the same. A public map will not lead you to treasure. One folded up neatly in an obscure volume of literature on Great-Granddad's bookshelf just might.

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Graywolfs, I cannot dis-agree with anything that anyone has posted here. That is amazing in itself, but do cactus live 400 years? Meaning is the marker still going to be there today if the limb was cut off in 1600, will it still be standing in 2010?
I am a cashe hunter, and my current quest is located in western Az. I have been on this one for nearly a year in the field. Although it isn't Spanish treasure, the legend of the "Sunlit Cave" is in the region. All I can do is research my subject (to death) and when I'm out there, I naturally put myself it the the shoes of the one who hid it.
Where do you live in Az? and would you like to go out on a field test of your theory? I would love to tag along, share my knowledge, lend a hand and possibly learn a thing or two. I have a few strong leads on Sunlit, but that is not the treasure I'm focused on at the moment.
Let me know.
DC

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