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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2009, 03:50:49 am »
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ksightler;

How old is that tree? You say 1600 to 1700, that is 2009 to 309 yrs.... is the tree that old?

You can get a special auger that will make a tiny hole and take out a core sample of wood, just count the rings to heart wood. Don't bother with trees under 320 years.

The scar looks like a lightning scar, to me.

Wo! A great big spider just ran across my shirt, while typing this, can any one tell me if that is significant? I am ALL goose bumps! Yikes!  Funny

Actually, Keith, I dont believe spider events have a thing to do with treasure.... it was just a unique event! Wo, was it fast! I think it was a Solitary, they bad!

Be interested to know what you find.

Take an IR photo(s) of the mark(s). None of those photos show trees old enough, besides you would not likely see marks after 50 years.... look for big rocks!

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There are a lot of rocks in the area as well... I am reading up to see what they mean... I am also looking for the entry to the mine.... I hear the entry might be covered or hidden...

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There may be newer marks in some of the trees... I am trying to find to older ones... I really don't know much about them... or finding the age of trees..GD.. I don't believe I can use the auger as these are in a preserve... The tree I know is one of the oldest is picture P1010273... The tree is really large.. the pictures don't give it justice... I am no expert.. I will take my MD in the area I might be able to find so relics... I believe the whole reason the area is a preserve is because the historical value and it was known the early Spanish conquistadores brought goods and treasures from the mines to be shipped to Spain. I am still in the studying phase as I really don't know much about markers or how to find them.. But I hear they are out there... any help would be welcomed...

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2009, 02:31:55 am »
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ksightler;

Augers are non-invasive, that's why they got invented... if anybody asks, you are doing research, which is true. Keep a log of each tree, its GPS and number of seasonal marks to heartwood and give them a copy, afterward.

Tree marks:

Up here, in the frigid northland, I have seen tree marks, on a trapline, where I saw the trapper/owner leave his trapline, permanently, in 1981.

In 2002, I saw tree marks, both blazes and blue spray paint, that had to be a MINIMUM of 21 years old.... (same trapline,) they were getting faint, but may have lasted another 20 years, or 40 yrs, total. Give or take 5 yrs.

Trees are much slower growing, here, but have speeded up, terrifically, since 1930... (knowledge by ring observation,) due to CO2. So, in the area which you are searching, it is not likely the marks would be visible that long..... rocks now, dont grow. Forget ze tree :-)

Try some IR viewing of the rocks, something might show up.

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IR on the rocks... what would I be looking for? What will show up? What kind of signs might there be on the rocks? Sounds interesting...

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Will they be like these?

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2009, 03:24:21 am »
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Ksightler;

Signs on rocks can be overgrown with lichen or any other snot.... while it may have the appearance, to the eye, as a uniform surface, anywhere there are artificial markings or even faded paint, it should, I stress SHOULD show up.

Markings on rock are easy to make in straight lines, and hard to make in curves, also some of the marks, in the pictures are not old enough, others are not Spanish, but Indian. For instance, hearts, in that form did not exist until after the Napoleonic wars. The swastika: if the arm ends point clockwise, it is Roman origin, if they point anti-clockwise, they are a native American 4 wind sign.

Look at some old Norse runic inscriptions.... they loved to write on rock.... the runes are all straight lines.

I downloaded them, to look at, and it was difficult because they tried to switch my browser to Internet Confuser! I had to keep clicking, in the down load window, which, at first, was trying to open them.... have you got IE?

I have never seen most of these signs before, and they little match with the ones I have seen (but never recorded, mostly because they were not really important, at the time.)

You do NOT have to do the IR photos in total dark, just subdued evening light, while the rocks are still sun hot, could be the best. Or a bit later. Compare with full light pictures, too.

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 03:32:03 pm »
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Ksightler;
           I've studied Spanish traps and have seen one in person, and a number of photos of others. All will kill. However, this pile of rock doesn't quite seem natural for some reason. It looks as though it has been 'fitted' together. The one question that does beg an answer is, how did the rock pieces come out of the cavity?  That one large spear point looks as though it's balanced. Be very careful.

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