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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 05:37:30 am »
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lil bit a strange coin! not as usual coins. more like some copy  Undecided


as i said..look at the letters..those are nowadays letters. look how different are other genuine coins with font style suitable for that time!
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2010, 08:54:51 am »
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this coin is genuine ,, like paul said let your local f l o officer have a look and get his oppiniojn on it


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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2010, 01:53:28 pm »
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Hi people i contacted to the Portable Antiquities Scheme website with pictures weight ect of this coin and this is the reply i got back from them the man i contacted specialises in the period of the coin. This is my reply...

Dear Lee,
Many thanks for you email. I've taken a look at the images and unfortunately the coin does look like a modern fake, probably produced for museum shops and the like. It's based on real coins, the first image with the cross based on medieval coins of the 14th and 15th centuries. The inscription reads CIVITAS LONDON which means 'City of London' and on the real coin relates to the city where the coin was struck. The other image showing a Tudor rose is more like the slightly later coins of Edward VI and Elizabeth I in the 16th century. The inscription 'ROSA SINE SPINA' (A rose without a thorn) is typical.

Sorry that the coin isn't a real one, but thanks very much for getting in touch. If you've found any other coins you'd like to report do let me know and i can point you to your local FInds Liaison Officer.

I just find this a little bit strange,  Where it was found  buried in the ground i also found a Elizabeth 1 halfgroat loads of old buckles barrel tap buttons thimbles ect. How would a modern coin from a museum manage to end up in a field pretty much in middle of nowhere in amoung all these other finds. Im still baffled but guess i got my answer. I fort that replica coins had to have replica stamped onto them for legal reasons. Cheers people. Lee   Detecting

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010, 05:03:36 am »
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hi, curious as to where you found this coin, the odds of finding a coin that has been made for a museum shop would be pretty rare in itself , i have brought some of these myself and they are marked with an obvious sign to denote that they are reproduction coins for the museum market, dont rule out the possibility that this coin might be a mule, thats a coin that was struck from 2 different dies and could be worth a fortune, fingers crossed .
should have read your last post fully before i posted my reply as it answers my question but it does seem mighty strange to turn up with all those old artifacts , still i think i would dig a bit deeper as those museum pieces are usually very obvious as fakes, happy hunting

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2010, 03:42:22 pm »
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 Sad Honestly this has driven me Bang Head CRAZY! I dont know what or where to go or do next to dig a bit deeper. I found the coin in my home town haverhill on the land that is now the back 9 holes of the golf coarse. They gave my father and i permission before they constructed the new 9 holes. Any ideas what i should do next as i really beleive it cant be a fake coming from that site. Cheers.  Happy Hunting!  Lee   Detecting

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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 07:46:12 am »
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i'm with you on this one i can't see that it's a fake and i would send all your info to the british museum's numismatic dept and see what they say about it, or if your local take it yourself ,

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 06:39:13 am »
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Looks like a rose farthing unsure what date Shocked

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 11:04:59 am »
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Hi,
I still think it's genuine.
Could be a "trial" piece maybe......
If it was a repro then a: it wouldn't be silver and b: it would have a little "r" (reproduction) on it somewhere.....
As suggested.... try the coin room at the british museum.


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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 11:55:31 am »
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no way...  Rider

one side it is CIVITAS LONDON penny and other is I.D.G. ROSA SINE SPINA halfgroat with extra KH!! i think KH are initials of a maker.

this one have same inscription on it:

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probably it is a contemporary copy what makes this one even better and more rare.

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2010, 03:37:59 am »
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Hi Lee,
The best place foe ID would be here:

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Posted on: October 15, 2010, 04:24:05 AM
I am afraid this is not correct. The treasure act is on coins, if you find a single coin, it doesn't matter what material or age, that coin is yours. If you find 2 or more coins of similar age, doesn't matter what metal, it needs to be declared and could be a treasure hoard.


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Hi Lee,
I'm afraid what you WILL need to do is register the coin with you local Finds Liason Officer.
If not, you might end up getting prosecuted and lose the coin!
It's over 300 years old, precious metal, and comes under the 1996 treasure act.
As it's a single find you'll likely be able to keep it.
Your local F.L.O. will likely as not get it identified.
I think it's genuine, probably a silver "penny".



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