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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2009, 07:51:08 pm »
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Generally speaking, nearly any headphone will allow you to hear the whispers of deeper, possibly older targets simply because they block out external noise and allow you to essentially put your ear right against the speaker. Rather than tilt your head down and do that, you get the sound delivered right to your ears giving you that ability to pick out a whisper among the threshold sound.

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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 07:56:20 pm »
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Does a whisper apply to non-motion detectors, or to both kinds? My is motion, so all the sounds are beeps.  I suppose the deep targets would be tiny and short blips?

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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2009, 08:06:58 pm »
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Before you make a statement like "they all sound like beeps," turn down your threshold to nearly silent and get back to me when you have tried searching that way. All machines, motion or not, will detect targets that you cannot hear if your threshold is too high. Turn your stereo on full blast and try to listen to the news on TV with the volume set to low. Same principle. You mask the whispers unless you turn down the threshold.

Try it.

With my Minelab and Bounty Hunter, short beeps normally mean tiny targets near the surface. Both will are the same as far as a whispered target. Don't let the term confuse you. The whisper on your machine will be unique to your machine. Study it and learn what the sounds mean.

To be honest with you, after reading your posts here, you have had your machine adjusted to minimize your finds no matter if you are using headphones or not. Your threshold is not an adjustment of sensitivity. It is an adjustment of the level at which your machine issues a tone of any kind. Too high a threshold and you will not get a tone until you are over a manhole cover. Too low and even a manhole cover won't make a tone. You MUST adjust it to a very low tone just above the silent point.

Do us a favor and try it before you ask about it again. Seriously. Trying it will answer most of your questions for you.

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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2009, 08:09:52 pm »
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Ah, okay then.  Dark here, have to wait until tomorrow.  I plan to go up to the neighbors again, and search the old house that produced a 1904 Quarter for me.  I'll do exactly what you say, and give a report on it.  I have the Threshold down to the lowest it will go, and one notch down it is completely gone.  Any cons to having the threshold off?

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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2009, 08:12:48 pm »
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I edited my last post and covered that, mate. Re-read it. Have fun finding those deep babies. Let me know what you find.

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2009, 09:12:27 pm »
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I have done some huntin in Malvern and
Rock Port. I did not know that that old
round house was still there.

When they lost the RR direct link, it slowed
Malvern down.

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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2009, 09:15:36 pm »
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As far as headphones go,

Any will work.

The quality, made for metal detectin
kind just work better, and save you
money.

You will not know til you try,

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2009, 06:47:06 am »
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Quote:Posted by metal_inspector
Ah, okay then.  Dark here, have to wait until tomorrow.  I plan to go up to the neighbors again, and search the old house that produced a 1904 Quarter for me.  I'll do exactly what you say, and give a report on it.  I have the Threshold down to the lowest it will go, and one notch down it is completely gone.  Any cons to having the threshold off?


Yes, there are cons to having threshold too low.
Those cons kind of depend on which machine you
use.

Do you have an Eldorado? I am used to Tesoro and
can tell you some about how the threshold will effect
it.

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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2009, 07:14:27 am »
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Hay MI,

You said;

"My headphones seem just fine to me."

I thought you had good reasons to complain in original post
when you said;

"the adjustment system on the headphones are need some
work. The volume is not very strong at all. threaten to fall
off of my head at any minute."

And when you said;

"No matter what the smaller business do, the looming
shadow of the bigger business will block them out forever,
stealing their possible customers. Not all, but most of the
customers."

You are right. These smaller companies that make quality
metal detector headphones are small American companies
struggling against the bigger conglomerates that sell the
cheep stuff. We should help them out.

So we should support the little guy.

When you said;

"They call their headphones more "quality", when in fact some
times that only difference between the two headphones is
the price tag. "

The difference in quality is obvious the second you hold them
in your hand. You can see it, as well as hear it.

"These headphones can search the deepest, detecting all the
tiniest of whispers, so that you won't miss that gold coin!!".

Whisper signals are different on different machines.  But to
hear the difference between whisper signals and background
noise on most machines, it helps to have headphones. To
hear them better and tell more about them you need quality,
made for MDing headphones.

Your Minelab may do with tha stuff they sell for Minelab. They
have a different response range than most detectors. But the
good Minelab headphones cost too.

Happy Huntin,

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2009, 08:51:02 am »
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tabdog and all;

I use a cheap set ($9.95) where there is high noise (traffic, etc.) and a cheap mono ($1.20 last one) with a foam pad, for where I need to hear around me. The stereo set, I think, was Rad Shak.

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