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« on: March 28, 2011, 07:03:27 am »
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I am new to this and I am thinking of building a PI detector. I am looking for some advice on which mosfet is the best for driving the coil. I have not decided on a circuit yet but I want to buy the components so that I can experiment. I would be using a 12v supply with an N channel mosfet able to drive <10A. Anyone got any advice on which mosfet to buy?
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 03:38:02 am »
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Dear Vague,

in the PI-detectors generally  using type: IRF9640 FET, with cooler. If original cooler not available for this tr., please use for cooling a small blended brass or alu plate.

The FET-price is about one USD.

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(After visiting this link, just simple click to IRF9640, this bring up own pdf-file. If this IRF not good for You, click to another type and read pdf-s).

Sorry, ?'m beginner in this forum, and *dont* Detecting the link-insert symbol between many exotic pictograms.

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Posted on: March 31, 2011, 03:31:42 AM
Pardon, You are wanted Smiley an N-channel FET. Maybe good: IRF 530.

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 09:21:45 am »
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Thank you Rumcajs
Your link was useful. I finally settled on a IRF740

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 09:33:53 am »
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Hey!  You may want to take a look a Silverdogs shop.   He just lives around the corner from ya and offers some kick but kits for more then a decent price.

I bought the Surf PI kit and still waiting to put it together , but a mess of them have been completed and there a good little machine.

If your just a starter, the documentation is here and would be a good learning step for you.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 09:46:28 am »
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Thanks Homefire
I hadn't realised that silverdog was in the UK. I am actually more interested in the electronics and physics than in the actual metal detecting!

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 10:15:15 am »
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It's still a good learning platform.

Do you have a O-Scope?

The Hammer Head is set up as a development Tool to start with.

You have Control of almost every function the detector can do.

It's quite a bit more complicated to put together, but you can do a pile of things to it learning all functions.

As far as Electronics go, you have :

DC Voltages

DC and AC (Z) resistances

Capacitance

Inductance  (To include, Transformer Principles, Fly Back, EMP Theories)

Timing Trains

Amplifiers

Sample Methods and Processing

Audio Modulation

and More.

And when your done, you have a kick but Metal detector.



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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 10:42:28 am »
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I don't have a modern Oscope but I do have a logic analyser. I have been looking at a circuit on the geotech forum which is completely digital. My head is already hurting working my way through time constants, back emfs, induced magnetisation, DACS, PICS, DSPs, FGPAs CPLDS. I thought I'd ask a simple question about mosfets to start with before asking about Schottky diodes versus planar diodes or tvs. Lots of fun in the offing.
Actually I lied about not having an O-scope I have 2 40 year old ones up the loft I would break my back getting them down!

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 10:25:30 pm »
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Hi
I am new to this and I am thinking of building a PI detector. I am looking for some advice on which mosfet is the best for driving the coil. I have not decided on a circuit yet but I want to buy the components so that I can experiment. I would be using a 12v supply with an N channel mosfet able to drive <10A. Anyone got any advice on which mosfet to buy?
Thanks

As with most electronics, there are many reasons for choosing one component over another. In this case, since you will be working with audio frequencies or low frequencies, just about any will do for the frequency issue. The next thing you need to know is your control voltage. For 5v to 12v control (that's the gate voltage), there are a range of devices. Next, you need to determine the flyback voltage of your coil circuit to select the rating of your device. Normally, 400v to 600v is typical. That's the peak voltage through the device from source to drain when it is switched on. Bear in mind that with proper design you will never see that much voltage but it could very well be present if a component fails. The source to drain resistance is also important because that affects the rise time of your pulse and the decay time of your pulse. Both factors are important for detecting metals. Too short a decay, you miss gold. Too long a delay and you miss everything.

This is not a design project for the faint of heart or the inexperienced. You are much better off building a design that you are already sure works. As you can tell by my last paragraph, there is a very steep learning curve which will frustrate you rapidly. You have been advised to build the circuit that Silverdog is selling. I concur with that.

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 12:23:20 pm »
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 Hello vague , you mention about suitable mosfet , irf540 only good for 100v flyback at which point the internal zener limits voltage to protect mosfet , all well and good but the longer the peak voltage is held by internal zener then the longer the delay , idealy peak voltage would never hit the mosfets top limit , but in many designs it does.

   so as golddigger quite rightly says 400 to 600 v mosfets are in order.

irf740 most popular choice out there is 400v
irf840 is 600v limit but 0.10 ohms higher on resistance than the irf740 but close enough not to be a big deal.



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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 01:29:23 pm »
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I also think that the best FET IRF9640. Great

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