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« on: July 28, 2009, 01:40:05 am »
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Hi,

this bavarian Kreuzer from 1866 was found last sunday. These silver coins are often found on our fields around my home town.

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 03:27:10 am »
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hi..nice one ;)happy Detecting

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 12:58:08 am »
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MrSimpson;

Very nice coin, why are they so common, and how many pfennig were they?

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 06:00:11 am »
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@Goldigger

The history of the Kreuzer ( on some coins written as Kreutzer ) belongs back in the 13th century.
The name goes back to an Austrian coin which was first made in 1271 AC. This coin has a double cross ( cross in german is ?Kreuz? ) on one side and the people start to call them Kreuzer.

During the 16th century, the Kreuzer made his way and was used in Austria, Switzerland and the southern part of Germany.

In the south german states, starting with the ?Reichsm?nzgesetz? ( regulation of currency ) from 1551, the Kreuzer was the official name for small silver money. At this time 72 Kreuzer wase 1 Goldgulden.

Due to the fact that Germany does not realy exist before 1871 ( there were lots of different states ) the value of the Kreuzer depends.

At the 17th century in most of the south german states the currency was:

8 Heller = 4 Pfennig = 1 Kreuzer
4 Kreuzer = 1 Batzen

In the other south german states which had the ?Gulden? as official currency it was:

249 Pfennig = 60 Kreuzer = 1 Gulden

The Kreuzer was used in Switzerland until 1850, in Austria until 1857 and in south Germany until 1871.

It was the most common coin in Bavaria in that time, that?s why you can find more Kreuzer than other coins of this period.

To get a feeling for the Kreuzer here some examples of costs and income between 1850 and 1870 in Bavaria.

1 kg bread   =    6 Kreuzer
1 pc cheese   =    4 Kreuzer
1 cow      =   10 Gulden

A day labourer had an income of  30 Kreuzer per day.
A craft master had an income of 40 Kreuzer per day and also food and 1 liter wine per day


By the way, the old brasilian currencies, the Cruzeiro and Cruzado, also were named after the Kreuzer.

And last not least?.. just take a look at Scrooge McDuck ( in german Dagobert Duck )

He loves to take a bath in Taler and Kreuzer )


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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 09:34:40 pm »
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MrSimpson;

That is very enlightening. It really gives a feeling for the coin, in terms to which I  can relate....

It says to me a Kreutzer was about a nickel, in value, when it was in use.

There used to be a family, here, from Alsace/Lorraine, named Creucher, and they said kroy-sher. They said something similar about the cross.... Templars?? Hmmmm.

This might be some of the most interesting stuff, that I have ever seen, on the forum, but then, Ive only been on for a couple months... keep it coming.

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 02:43:31 pm »
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Really informational reading about Kreuzers! I already feel like I need to make trip to Bavaria... What is Your hometown MrSimpson?  :Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 03:38:39 pm »
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Very interesting, i love it when you can learn something new everyday, what a great site.Thanks for the info Mr. Simpson. I'll Drink to that!!!!!!.......DW

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 06:34:19 am »
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Quote:Posted by unoturbo
What is Your hometown MrSimpson?


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My hometown is Nuernberg ( Nuremberg ) in the north of bavaria.

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 07:03:51 am »
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I have driven few times on autobahn A9 - once made the trip from M?nchen to Tallinn. I have seen N?rnberg, nice city. Bavaria is my favorite part of Germany Smiley And I never liked cities Berlin or Hamburg.

Just asked for Your location as I never know if there will be little trip to Germany again, so maybe You have a nice place to detect Tongue Would be really interesting to detect in another country!

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 07:07:33 am »
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@unoturbo

no problem  Smiley we have lot?s of nice places for a hunt  Smiley and in my guest room theres nearly always a place to sleep  Smiley and of course always enough beer in the fridge  Grin

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