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« on: February 21, 2015, 10:35:41 am »
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Andrew's "КРОТ2-ХМ" METAL DEDECTOR Project :

Thats the Home page :

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ok Friends thx Andrew for his Permission :  Clapp


Project Properties :

• Coin diameter 25mm (ground) to 30-35 cm (depends on the coil)
•  ---- Helmet to 1.0m
•  Maximum ---- up to 3.0m
•  Audible indication selectable from 2 to 12 tones
•  Visual indication of characters.  LCD 16x2
•  The principle of operation IB
•  Probe diameter of 25-35 cm
•  The range of possible operating frequencies of 6-9 kHz (5-18 kHz)
•  Supply voltage 4.8-8 In
•  Rated current consumption 100 mA (without backlight)
•  Operating temperature range 0 - 40 degrees (depends on the coil)

Basic functionality

 * Working modes: dynamic, static -pinpointer.
 * The numerical and graphical and Display of WFI and amplitude.        
 * Multi-tone audible indication of ferrous and non-ferrous metals.
 * Indication of supply voltage.
 * The presence of the discriminator: -9 colored segments in 10 gr.
 Iron - 5 segments in increments of 20 grams.
 * Adjust the sensitivity separately for the "colored" and "black" purposes - from 0 to 9
 * The availability of detuning (balance) of the soil.
 * Cash include- backlight is switched off.
 * The availability of automatic and manual modes of digital options:
 Automatic or manual balance sensor.
 Automatic or manual adjustment of the operating frequency to the resonance sensor.
 Automatic or manual setting to zero readings of the ADC.
 Automatic or manual adjustment phase ferrite.
 Automatic or manual adjustment of the balance of the soil.
 Manual adjustment of the pump power transmission parts.
 Manually adjust the sensitivity of the receiving part.
 Manual tuning voltage readings.
 * User-friendly and simple interface.
 * Automatically record all settings in non-volatile memory
 * Easy configuration for different sensors IB
 * Ability to create a "profile" for a particular sensor.

Ok first .this is the Shematic .

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i added bottom big one.
and Connecting coil  Shematic (TX cable is not allowed to escape) i added bottom

Capacitors should be highlighted in green thermostable, film or ceramic NP0.
KU reception channel amplifier ~ 80 selected R10.
Earth can not untie -> instead of Dr1 put jumper ..


Data for the DD coil frequency ~ 8.0 (10.0) kHz, diameter of 25-30 cm
 Number of turns of the transmitting TX ~ 45 turns of wire 0.4-0.5mm C1 = 0.3 (0.22) microfarads
 Number of turns of the receiving RX ~ 200 turns of wire 0.15-0.22 mm C0 = 0.022 (0.015) microfarads
 Frequency spacing between the TX and RX turns around 1,5-2.0 kHz Ftx> Frx
 "Mole 2" works well and without resonance RX, when C0 = 0

and youll need to Sprint Layot for open .lay files    and Project .lay files at the  :

v01

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and KPOT2_Z80-1 ( board under body z80  )

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and were continue Project..  and Project 01 video :

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ok we need to firmware files for  ( Programmer for controller firmware )

ill add firmware files  and Properties :

Firmware KROT2_v01A     from 03/22/2013 optimal frequency ~ 8.5kGz  

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Firmware KROT2_v02 on 15/03/2013

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Firmware KROT_v02A on 04/05/2013 Improved version 1A.                    

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Firmware MOLE v02B on 04/14/2013     Improved dir.  "Static". (R10 ~ 1.5Kom, R22 to adjust to a comfortable search)  

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Firmware KPOT v03 on 19/04/2013 Added a mode of adjustment "Volume" and "Contrast" Other changes improve the operation of the device  

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Firmware KPOT v03A from 04/26/2013 to increase the initial volume of the "weak signals".  Added another tone (the third) in the voice-color targets from 0 to 20 (the foil).  Other minor changes.

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Firmware KPOT v04 from   02/06/2013      Added pinpoiter 4th filter and stuff ..  

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Firmware V05 MOLE on 31/08/2013 Added a mode of selecting the number of tones of voice.  Added indicator (approx) depth [_].  Improved mode "Gain". Changed to a more convenient order of the modes.  Increased overall sensitivity.  Other changes improve the operation of the device.    

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Firmware KPOT_V05A from 13/09/2013 to modify the filters to work on different soils (1-3)  

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Firmware V06 MOLE from 04 10.2013 The new firmware and good, especially on the ground.  Put the "Gain" 1 or 2. Frequency is better to put on 8.0 to 8.5 kHz  

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Firmware KROT_V06A From 19/10/2013 shell as a V06, V04 taken from the filters and improved.  Optimal Gain = 1, Filter = 2.  Although it is possible to experiment ..  

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Firmware KROT_V08 From 01/03/2014 Anyway improved almost all modes, filters changed - now there are three, the higher the number the faster you can swing the coil.  Fastest №3, the deepest №2.  Spool "mono" can be put №1.  In short experiment.  The optimal frequency of 7-8 kHz.    
Firmware V09 MOLE From 21/03/2014 New filters.  Adding profeli, pereklyuchayutsya when loading the "+" and "-".  You can also optionally in the second line write the name of the profile, the transition "dir" There's a new mode "psevdostatika" works with F = 3 mode P / P.  Volume set to 1 or 2, and listen to the earth (the display does not need to look) better through headphones ..  

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Firmware MOLE V09SA From 04.20.2014 The algorithm volume, slightly modified filters, and other minor changes.  

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Firmware V10 MOLE from 01.06.2014 The speed of the filters, and other minor changes ..  

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Recommended settings for search Gein-2, thresholds-84 filter-2. An example of    

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Firmware V11 MOLE on 08/24/2014 Big WFI and other improvements.  

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Firmware MOLE V11 '    from 14.09.2014 Now you can evaluate your CG amplifier.  The "0" when turned on.  Other dorobotki ...  

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Firmware KROT "TURBO" from 09.11.2014 configurable frequency range 5-18 kHz.  Four switchable profile.  Large display WFI (selectable).  Modes of Operation "Norma" "Turbo" (dynamic) and "Tresh" (pseudo-static).  Modes "Turbo" and "Tresh" uvilichivayut search depth by about 20% but this decreases the reaction rate of the device, the recommended speed wiring is not more than 50 cm / sec.  The new algorithm works "WFI at the maximum target response" turns on if the "discriminator" is set at least ode mask, except the extreme.  Recommended frequency of 10-15 kHz. Description modes of TSV  

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Firmware Mole TURBO3 on 01/14/2015 Added the function of "SL", select the speaker volume voice (only in dynamic mode) button is toggled to "0" in the mode of "Volume".  

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and some videos from firmwares ..  

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2015, 11:07:44 am »
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Why don't you build it and let us know how it works out for you.

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and The documentation package from the TCB for enclosures Z79 and Z80

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Posted on: February 21, 2015, 11:46:12 am
and we need Programmable fusy - where something like that :

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If you do not want to configure the device after the next filling can be set and check on "EESAVE"

 All the information needed to build this device is present on the site.   But before the "brother" of this device is highly recommended to evaluate their strengths and abilities.

Description modes (russian language ) :  

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and Menu_new :

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and video for settings : "Auto-balance" without understanding not to touch.  Put A = 0.   ( i shared at the first video )

And Description of the main modes of MD "KROT2-XM" 

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Posted on: February 21, 2015, 11:49:39 am
questions about connecting to the Mole-2 sensors from different factory equipment.

this is the examples for that :

Sensor ring "Garrett 2500"

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"GARRET-2500" to connect.  On pjatochek 30 cm through the air!  Advantages of the ring will not describe ...
  The frequency of 7.2 kHz.  C1 = 200nF
  TX- 4,5 (e)
  RX- 2,1 (e)

connector pinout for NEL FISHER F-5:
  1.screen Rx
  2.Signalny Rx
  3.screen Tx
  4.Signalny Tx
  5. Hanging in the air.  In native sensors possible goes to a common screen, or graphite.

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thx again Andrew for completed "КРОТ2-ХМ" . Nowadays ,Andrew working  "КРОТ3-ХМ" Project and his own Projects.

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So you going to build it or not? personally I'd do it but at the moment I have other priorities.

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ill make later  first i must to finish my before Project very low frequency strengh indicator and its tests . i need time for this one . but too many people fineshed this one and shared their views and runs.. mybe we ll start same time this one and well share our experience ..



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Yes it dose look like a good project

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I agree with you xavier . before I did some research on the earlier at the Andrews forum and manuels ..

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i forgot to say Xavier All tested and everything works perfectly ( From other user videos and tests ) . important part The software is open, have without limitation firmware not same other limitations .hex file Projects and WHO wants to learn pic programming this is the good one and for Who know Pic programming this is the upgradable one ( isaw too many projects before someones making Projects for Money  this is not same.. ) and very popular  .

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i saw too many projects  ( starting good and other members helping him for best results but other days he or she WHO started Project (s) putting version and program files but its only for 250 300 use. and when Project done he or she selling that and others need to buy that.. or Project ,Money, times going to trash and more ... ) too many people doing this... i Hate this ones...

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