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« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2009, 04:42:24 am »
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Hello Eugene52
The apparent complexity of some software, you will find as I did, is potential you will come to appreciate. Once you learn the advantages of a good sw there is no looking back. But give yourself time. Some related comments on what you said:

Quote: ?One software I tried a few months ago had 20 different resistor sizes---?. Most sw has libraries of part designs(elec data + shape with pins). The more the better. Hint :Choose what is preferred and save to a ?User? library; easier to find later. It allows you to also design or modify special parts which I found very handy.

Quote: ?All I need is a simple "Through Hole" design not surface mount . Standard board not metric , 2 sided "very simple" . Most good PCB software caters for all cases. They are settings done at start as per your choice, and keep/set as default.

Choose a sw where the schematic and layout can run together. When one is modified the other is outo modified too; plus an outo-router running conjointly. Then consider the board development. A single sided with perhaps some jumpers, is easier than double sided to develop. No problems to align the two sides; less etching later. There are many more benefits; ?copper pour? fills unused board area with copper hatch that saves you having to etch it away, plus a more professional look.


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« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2009, 05:22:21 am »
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The PCB software you guys recommend is CHEAP! I have been looking for CNC design and program software and it is very expensive. Example: $14,000 for MasterCam, $6,000 for AutoCad, etc. And its hard to find the bootleg stuff that really works.

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« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2009, 07:35:58 am »
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sprint layout 5 beats all.

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« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2009, 12:28:02 pm »
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Thank-You so-far , Great Work from everyone on this Topic !!!!!! Any PCB / Schematic software takes time and practice to Master . Eventually Me and a few others here , will find something pretty cool and post the results here . This new subject here is not just for me , but for all the circuit builders on this Forum .
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« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2009, 01:11:44 pm »
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 Here's something I think you might like to try.... the link is

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  FREE PCB Design Software
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    * Top Rated and Intuitive
    * Gerber Format Available
    * Largest Parts Library, over 270,000 parts!
    * Easy Plane Area Creation
    * Free Autorouter
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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2009, 01:20:56 pm »
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Here's something I think you might like to try.... the link is

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Hello mdiede57 . Yes , that was on my list . I am going to check it right now !!! I have been playing with protel 99 se full version , so I will quit right now and check it out  .
Regards........ Great......Eugene

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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2009, 01:57:57 pm »
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Can you give me a list of the non-freeware programs that you have used, and liked?

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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2009, 07:05:41 am »
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@ Mdiede57

Best: Pads by Mentor Graphics. Today it is a benchmark product but expensive. Certainly way above my limit. Early version in DOS is freeware, which I used since '95. Have 2004 evaluation version which I still use.  Tried the 2007 version which is very advanced but this time-expires. too expensive for me.
Take a look at their site; it costs nothing. The later versions (suite; schematic, layout, router and also simulated operation at schematic stage) is an ideal setup.

Eagle: Quite good. used on and off last five years

Both have improved since first used.

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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2009, 12:25:45 pm »
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Can you give me a list of the non-freeware programs that you have used, and liked?


Hello mdiede57. In 2005 Altium sent me a Full Version Protel cd in the mail and it was around 700 mb. Did I like it ? NO . It is now discontinued , I wonder why !!!! . I have sprint layout 4.0 and 5.0 full versions , they are ok . But like I said I am just trying to find Full Version "Freeware" that is USER FRIENDLY !!!! I was told they have software today where you draw a schematic make sure it is error free , then with a simple click of the mouse a PCB layout is done for you automatically !!!
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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2009, 09:55:47 pm »
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why go to expensive pcb soft? they have all same functions and capability.

just pcb making in your own circuit.

its not the software, its the user.

i wonder why...

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