Is the holy grail in Wales?
hardluck:
There is an interesting little curiosity hidden away in a bank vault in West Wales UK.
Locally known as the Nantos Cup. An ancient wooden cup that some people claim is the Grail that Jesus drank from at the last super?
It has been said that Jesus was the son of humble carpenter then it would of been logical that his plain drinking vessel would of been made of wood.
This plain wooden cup was alleged to have came from Cistercian monks of Strata Florida Abbey.
Before that is was alleged it was one of the main relics of the Cistercian monks at Glastonbury. Legend said it was Joseph of Arimathea who brought the cup to Britain.
During the dissolution of monestaries It has been said that it was one of the treasures the monks fled with to more remote Abbeys in Wales. Little did the monks know how far king Henry went to disolve the monestaries. And even in the remotest parts of Wales the abbeys were looted.
The cup was belived to have healing powers and early fanactical medeval pilgrims would bite parts off the cup.The departing monks gave the relic to a local Lord in which it has been passed on at the Nantos estate. in which it is still in thier stewardship today.
There are suggestions that this cup is an early medeval fake which monks were known to create to encourage medeval pilgrims to thier abbeys. And of course the usual claims and counter claims.
Its history of the healing cup of Nantos is old one and that is a fact, but is it the real cup of christ?
An interesting reflection on what could be...
hardluck ::)
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg50890.html#msg50890
maturemike:
Does it have a red dragon on it?
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg50966.html#msg50966
GoldDigger1950:
You mean . . .? Could it be . . .?
The Flagon with the Dragon????
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg50975.html#msg50975
hardluck:
Perhaps like everything else made today, we should look for made in China label on it!
Hardluck ;D
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51046.html#msg51046
goldigger:
Quote:Posted by hardluckPerhaps like everything else made today, we should look for made in China label on it!
Hardluck ;D
Test of a fake: are there more of this type around?
I have seen a photo of a different kind of wooden vessel that was claimed to be the one and only cup! It was in a bit better shape, not so bit and better looking. ;D
goldigger
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51057.html#msg51057
Alan Hassell:
The answer to your question is yes it is and it has not been recovered yet either.
The quest for the Grail or really the Greal has been going on for centuries. Very few know what the greal actually is either.
It was considered to be the cup used at the last supper but the word greal really means a list.
Now put your thnking caps on kiddiwinks and use some of that gray matter between those ears.
What would be the most important list that everyone's been trying to find since it went missing?
Want a clue? without this list there would be anarchy, lawlessness, the world would be a chaotic place in which to live.
That List is none other than the ten commandments that Moses is said to have bought down from Mt. Sinai.
It was placed in the Ark of the Covernant and dissapeared off the face of the planet.
In fact it has been located and is still in the ground where it was placed centuries ago.
The diabolical thing is that everything was recorded and documented and a book has been written about it too.
If you do a search at amazon you will find a book by Grant Berkley called Discovery of the Ark of the Covernant.
The real author's are Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett who reveal the secrets and methods use to locate this and many other discoveries or finds that they have made.
What English Historians, Archaeologists, Academics and The Establishment do not understand is that a comet struck Britain in 562 AD with such devastating effect that for between seven and eleven years nothing lived and nothing really grew after the debris had struck.
The academis changed British history and now the truth is coming out slowly and surely.
The Englsih extablishment witll do anything and everything in its power to protect its Monarch even if she and her roots are German.
As head of the Church of England which is a splinter of the Roman Catholic Church there are certain things they dont want the general public to know about.
One of them is that it is recorded that Christianity came into Britain in AD 37-35 long before Ausguatine who arrived in 597 to convert the illiterate, barbarian Angles and Saxons
The men in black were not very good christians because they didnt practice the laws of Moses, Thous shalt not Kill.
All one needs do is question the inquisitions and even eliminating members of the Knights Templars.
The Roman catholic Church and its men in black have much to answer for and even today some of the people they employ love little boys bums as Kevin bloody wilson would say.
Years ago they would of boiled me in oil for saying something like that in order to hide the truth and thats exactly what they have been doing for centuries hiding the truth about the Real British History.
Because if you really knew the the secret it undermines everything the Church stands for.
Jesus was a Jew his religion was for Jews not gentiles. Paul alias Sual wrote the new testament he made his own church.
He invited others to join his church with the words cross my palm withsilver and you will be assured a place in heavan.
If you dont then your soul will rot in hell for eternity. Today thats a form of blackmail and it was in those days too.
Is there a heavan? Is there a Hell? Maybe there is because the Church of Rome is certainly making lif [pray] [amen] [devil]e a hell for some.
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51063.html#msg51063
Margaret:
Thank you for sharing that information. It is sooo interesting. There is discussion now as to whether the Templars were in Canada and the USA long before it was presumably discovered by Christopher Columbus.
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51113.html#msg51113
Alan Hassell:
Thank you for your interest Margaret, Unlocking the dark ages which never really existed is a very rewarding as far as I am concerned interest. My interest in King Arthur goes back to the early 80's when I had tried to gain as much information as possible on a visit to the UK. I left the UK with only the rubbish that the Lying Establishment wanted me or anyone to really know.
In fact the Establishment consisting of Historians, Archaeologists, Egyptologists, and Academics are quick to denounce, criticise, and condemn anyone who finds something they did not find themselves.
They are the scum of humanity in my opinion and so low they can even crawl underneath a pregnant flea's stomache.
Not one of them is prepared to break rank and do some real work in studying the Old Welsh Manuscripts to prove to others of their kind that they have been fooled and manipulated like puppets by thier masters.
Yes, I understand that there is a lot of discussion going on the other side of the pond re the Knights Templars and did they get their?
The authors of the Holy Blood and Holy Grail cant really give a conclusive answer to that because what is know is that they were all rounded up and dealt with by execution.
However, King Arthurs Brother Madoc did sail to the America's and Mallory even wrote about it being the Otherworld.
What happened was the Battle of Camlan had finished Mordred was dead. Guenivere took off for Scotland but was finally caught at Perth. In the church yard at Miegel is a huge monument that is highly decorated and only a King at the time could afford such a memorial. On one side of the stone is a picture of a woman tied to a stake being Killed by a load of dogs. Those dogs are Arthurs dogs of war. On the other side of the stone arthur is pictured at the top with knights scattered over it.
Arthur had survived the battle and had gone to Brittany which was part of the British Kingdom at the time for rest or whatever.
Madoc, Arthur's brother was at sea with the fleet when debris from the comet caused a massive storm which blocked out the skies and stars. Lost at sea they continued to sail west and eventually discovered America 600 years before Columbus.
In about 1850, my memories not that good these days a dig was done at Bat Creek, Tennessee, on a burial mound.
Inside were found the bones of a human being and a remarkable stone called the Bat Creek Stone which had special markings.
No one could translate those markings for years until Alan Wilson saw a photograph of it and was able to recognise the writings as the old Coelbren Alphabet. Translated it said, "here lies Madoc the ruler he was."
Now if you want to learn more just google, 'Welsh Indians'. hehehe dont expect me to do your work for you hehehe have fun enjoy and learn at the same time. You might find it interesting and rewarding too :o
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51124.html#msg51124
goldigger:
Quote:Posted by Alan Hassell
Inside were found the bones of a human being and a remarkable stone called the Bat Creek Stone which had special markings.
No one could translate those markings for years until Alan Wilson saw a photograph of it and was able to recognise the writings as the old Coelbren Alphabet. Translated it said, "here lies Madoc the ruler he was."
Now if you want to learn more just google, 'Welsh Indians'. hehehe dont expect me to do your work for you hehehe have fun enjoy and learn at the same time. You might find it interesting and rewarding too :o
Alan, I can read the script.
Also, the Lillooet indians of southern BC are reputed to have welsh words. BUT! Cree (an Algonkian dialect) which is considered by some experts to be 'proto-Aryan,' has lots of root words similar to several 'Aryan' languages. Such as the Greek word Os, for example, it is Os-kun, in Cree but the -kun suffix just means 'thing,' otherwiise, it is the same word.... however, the Greeks were never here, to pass on words.
The Lillooet language is a Dene language, like kWAGIUT (Kwakutl, to some.)
There is a European DNA allele, in native American blood but it arrived 16 to 18,000 years ago.
This is a NEW theory, and this DNA source is theorized to have been the Saleutrian people of western Europe.
goldigger
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51342.html#msg51342
Alan Hassell:
Maybe I should put the story of the Death of arthur up here but it really belongs in another thread.
The Problem is this subject is so huge and so vast that Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett had to write 8 books in order to get to where we are now and they are still writing and were still making new discoveries like the recent Camelot re-discovery as the place was known about years ago. It was only when pieces of the jig saw started to fit together that we had the evidence and the proof of what we had was the genuine article.
Of course just like the present monarch has various homes and castles the ancient Kings of Britain had the same and we know of at least two others making three in all and a possible fourth one were working on at the moment.
Linkback: You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Loginhttp://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,8127.msg51374.html#msg51374
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page