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« on: October 20, 2012, 12:28:35 pm »
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hi all
I'm new here also looking for a great set of plans with or without a micro (like a arduion)
i'm thinking of the discovery board the software can be written in c# with the .net setup
one problem is that i am hard of hearing so LED's would great with sound.
this micro is a is a beast 168mhz
also thoughts would be a LCD Display

now thoughts on the detector
I believe we can ether design or change a design. So we need a good design for diy
looking for good ideas
I also would like to see very small pieces of gold detection and some kind of good depth.

I hopping that everyone will help with this idea/ project

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Posted on: October 20, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
here is a simple design using a micro

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 09:31:33 pm »
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Sounds like a great idea, but be aware the posted TX hex code on his website for the TPIMD is faulty, you have to use the updated version.

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 08:31:34 am »
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that is only 1 design
I was hopping for more designs
things that we know to work as a place to start
collaboration is the key to success.
 any ideas or designs would be greatly appreciated.

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 10:22:05 am »
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I don't believe an Arduino would work. Too slow. They are an interpretive processor. You need a native code processor to get the speed required.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 11:13:52 am »
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you think a 168mhz version is too slow?
that’s why i thought of using the discovery board
with .net programming can be done with c#
the unit might even need a few of these.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 07:42:35 pm »
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I do. Each instruction takes at least 4 clock cycles with some taking as many as 50. The Arduino is an interpretive processor using a BASIC interpreter.

Do try it though. I enjoy hearing about spinning wheels and brick wall scaling.

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 08:03:46 pm »
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I know the minelab has 4 processors.
so i was thinking of that it will probably require more then one.

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uses a 400mhz attiny25 and he says that he needs more...
i was thinking of using a good dsp along with the unit..
so what I was hopping is that here we can design something that can be tested and maybe improve on do you have any suggestions?
I like to play with electronics but i need a proven design to start with.
I’ve seen a few designs with 555 timers and ect..
also i have drawings of the Gold pic3 from Trever Hill  but reading that it has very big problems
so that's what leads me to this project.
Any and all info would be greatly appreciated.

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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 08:09:21 pm »
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This is primarily a site for users of detectors not designers. There are only a handful here who would even be interested in assisting you but quite a few interested in seeing what you learn along the way. As to your theory that 4 processors would help you along, perhaps they would but you have to determine what each is going to do first. You can't just whack four processors on a board and expect it to work. That reminds me of the folks who come along here and want to know how to wire an LCD display into their current DIY project.

Start by designing a functional block diagram of your proposed machine. I have dozens of years experience in electronic design and embedded control but lack the time to help you so good luck.

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 10:16:53 pm »
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here is the info you want.

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I like the design but i don’t like the op-amp lt1124cn8 that’s like a $7 part and there is like 7 of them....
a LM series or something cheap would be great for a test. I really haven't done all the research into that part yet.
i would replace the pic with the discovery board
then I will start collecting data

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Mate, get this in your head. This project is beyond the scope of this forum and I personally am not willing to dedicate any more time to such a project as you suggest. I have already been down that path and do not want to repeat my lack os success due to slow processor speeds. Unless you put a Pentium on the job, it's just making 4 machines talk to each other which, sad to say, takes up far too much processor time. No matter how fast your processors are, the more you add, the more they have to communicate with each other and when they do, they use more time. It just doesn't work as good as it sounds like it should.

But you go ahead and learn on your own instead of taking my word for it. Today, you have some advantages with multicore processors that have up to 8 processors inside a single chip. Their overhead is much better because internal bussing takes place but the tradeoff in cost is hardly worth it. A single chip costs over $1000 right now and I don't foresee them getting any less costly for two reasons. First is that they are horribly expensive to make and test. Second is the fact that they are really not all that useful so there is no queue of engineers wanting to use them. Until that happens, the price will stay high.

Good luck to you. Don't try to convince me that you have the latest and greatest idea. You'd be better served to read about the discussion here and see the conclusions that have resulted in those discussions. In other words, your idea has already been discussed here in many, many topic threads. It's not a new idea.

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