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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2012, 05:29:02 pm »
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I'm going to disagree with maintaining your claim markers - it is required - actually, one thing that is required, which many people do not do, and is a necessity, is to
put up a "discovery" monument.  The reason you don't see it in the Federal laws, is that each state office is the governing office for maintaining monuments. Which is
why you have to record it in the county courthouse every year.

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2012, 05:45:05 pm »
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Show me the Citation!      It's not even mentioned in the maintenance of your claim. Cool

 People remove markers all the time.   Tree Huggies love to do it.   Your Marker is only REAQUIRED BY LAW at the posting.

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After posted, nothing says you have to maintain the posts.

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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2012, 06:10:12 pm »
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Wanton destruction of claim markers is a major problem in some areas.   Just maintaining the markers would be a full time job in some areas....forget any other maintenance work that needs to be done (let alone any real work recovering precious metals).

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2012, 11:06:15 pm »
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Thanks all, I was wondering on some of the markers, because there has been times when I have been out and never ever see any type of any sort of a marker for someone's claim.  I have seen some claims that have never been worked also for what ever reason and I Know that it is actually has a claim for the property. Just from talking to people in an area.  I hope that some of the newbies take a look at this information. Teach Waveing

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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2012, 11:19:57 pm »
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We have ton s of info in the Prospectors Talk Board. Cool

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 02:04:10 am »
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Depends on the state - but, here is Nevada's
                                                                                                                                                                         
MARKING BOUNDARIES
Nevada State law (NRS 517.030) requires that the locator must define the boundaries
of the lode claim by placing a monument at each corner within 60 days from the date
of location (fig. 1). If the side lines are not straight, a monument should be placed at
each bend. Boundary monuments can be placed on ground already claimed, but the
location monument and the discovery must be on ground open to location (fig. 2).
According to Nevada State law (NRS 517.030) the monuments may consist of
any of the following:
A. a blazed and marked tree, with top removed and minimum diameter of at
least 4 inches, protruding at least 3 feet above the ground;
B. a rock in place capped by smaller rocks to a total height of at least 3 feet;
C. a wooden post at least 1 by 1 inches square or a metal post (securely
capped if hollow) at least 2 inches in diameter; the wooden post or metal
pipe must be at least 4 feet long set 1 foot into the ground or, if digging a
hole is impractical, placed in a mound of earth or rocks;
D. a stone (not a rock in place) at least 6 inches in diameter and 18 inches long
with two-thirds of its length set in a mound of earth or rock 3 feet in diameter
and 2 feet high; or
E. a durable plastic pipe if it was set before March 16, 1993, provided that it is at
least 3 inches in diameter, 4 feet long, set 1 foot into the ground, and is
securely capped with no open perforations.

AND

MARKING BOUNDARIES
If the placer claim is located according to legal land subdivision, the location
monument is the only monument required (43 CFR 3831.1; NRS 517.090). If the
claim is not located in this manner, Nevada law (NRS 517.090) states only that the
marking of the boundaries and the location point be done in the same manner and
by the same means as required for marking boundaries of a lode claim (see section
on locating a lode claim; marking boundaries). Erection and marking of monuments
at all corners or bends of the placer claim is recommended. The monuments must
placed within 60 days after the date of location

Now, more has been added since this booklet - but, I guarantee - California counties almost all have boundary marker requirements.

But - It is a fact that keeping them up is a full-time job. And many "nature and environmental" groups DO make it a habit to take down discovery markers, as well as corner boundary markers - especially on lodes, for some reason, and the main discovery markers on placers.  That's why it is important to file it with your county just as soon as you first put them up, and, if you are anything like us - take a picture (with the date on it) when you do it.  It came in real handy when someone cross-filed on one of our claims.

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Oops, forgot to add California's - It is for lodes and placers

 (b) By marking the boundaries so that they may be readily traced
and by erecting at each corner of the claim, or at the nearest
accessible points thereto, a conspicuous and substantial monument.
Each corner monument shall bear or contain markings sufficient to
appropriately designate the corner of the mining claim to which it
pertains and the name of the claim. - the idea being, very specifically, that the lines of a claim has to be readily traceable.

 



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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2012, 09:06:01 am »
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Not to derail the thread but have you all seen this?


Obama's latest attempt to grab more of your cash! This man and his czars need to be voted out!
 

Effective with the claim maintenance fees due September 1, each 20 acre placer claim will require a separate claim fee. Association placer claims will require a claim fee for each 20 acres or fraction thereof. Thus, a 160 acre placer claim will require 8 claim fee payments instead of one. Here is the language:
 
SEC. 430. Section 10101 of the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation
 Act of 1993 (30 U.S.C. 28f) is amended-
 (1) in subsection (a)-
 (A) by striking so much as precedes the second sentence
 and inserting the following:
 ''(a) CLAIM MAINTENANCE FEE.-
 ''(1) LODE MINING CLAIMS, MILL SITES, AND TUNNEL SITES.-
 The holder of each unpatented lode mining claim, mill site,
 or tunnel site, located pursuant to the mining laws of the
 United States on or after August 10, 1993, shall pay to the
 Secretary of the Interior, on or before September 1 of each
 year, to the extent provided in advance in appropriations Acts,
 a claim maintenance fee of $100 per claim or site, respectively.'';
 and
 (B) by adding at the end the following:
 ''(2) PLACER MINING CLAIMS.-The holder of each
 unpatented placer mining claim located pursuant to the mining
 laws of the United States located before, on, or after August
 10, 1993, shall pay to the Secretary of the Interior, on or
 before September 1 of each year, the claim maintenance fee
 described in subsection (a), for each 20 acres of the placer
 claim or portion thereof.''; and
 (2) in subsection (b), by striking the first sentence and
 inserting the following: ''The claim main tenance fee under
 subsection (a) shall be paid for the year in which the location
 is made, at the time the location notice is recorded with the
 Bureau of Land Management.''.



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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2012, 03:49:50 am »
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I thought I had found a pretty good one up here in WA too... checked the BLM site, court house and assessor's records...nothing listed, so I filed. Either I did not dig deep enough, in the right places, or the people at those offices didn't. No joy...current valid claim, so I gotta look elsewhere.

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Yea - the new regs are a pita.  Luckily, if you have less than 10 claims, you can still get the waiver.

The Bureau of Land Management runs under the direction of the Department of the Interior.  For the most part, neither Congress nor
the President writes or even looks at the regulations.  What happened is that the BLM has been running wild for years, and didn't have
enough money to do what they wanted, and they were pretty much told by Congress that they would have to raise their own - ta da!! Higher fees.  What will they do with this money?  Buy vehicles they don't need, hire people for nothing, and pay themselves more money. Argggg!
 



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What will they do with this money?  Buy vehicles they don't need, hire people for nothing, and pay themselves more money. Argggg!

Sounds like every branch of government. We should be quite used to this by now.

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