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« on: August 07, 2009, 03:50:05 am »
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Sad to say, suction dredging in California is no longer allowed.

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There ought to be a law against passing laws like this one.

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 02:30:16 pm »
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GD you are so right but if you are having fun you can be sure the govermant will tax it to death or outlaw it

most of the garrnets are 1/4 inch or better and are free but I think I can see a lot in the surrounding rocks

I will try the cloth wheel and jewelers rouge. I let you know how I make out

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 04:25:26 pm »
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Its too bad the government doesn't just mind its own business. I also understand the New Hampshire is also thinking of passing laws with sluicing and panning as well. I hope to be there next month for a week or so and am hoping I will not be hassled as a non resident.

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 04:41:51 pm »
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Arizona just put a moratorium on mining claims.

The Greenies just don't want us to be able to do any thing that disturbs Mother Earth.!!!!

There has been study after study about the Salmon and all have shown dredging at the right time of year was beneficial. Cleaning the gravels, Laying new beds for the eggs to settle. And the story goes on.

These folks just live in there own little shells, Dad  Or the Government is paying there bills. If they had to scratch a living from the ground, it would be a different story.

They think we live in a Utopia world and every thing just magically materializes at the grocery store.



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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 05:01:08 pm »
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Pretty soon the only legal thing you can do for recreation will be punching keys on your keyboard.... We will all get fat and freakishly white from the lack of sun (Kind of like the people in the movie Wall-E....

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I think these tree huggers mean to go after the corperate strip miners... but screw us hobbiest gold searching folks over...

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 05:19:31 pm »
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homefire, your little newspaper clipping is priceless!  Great find of another sort.

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 10:23:01 am »
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GoldDigger1950;

Suction dredges have not been allowed in BC, for over 20 years, now! Its almost illegal to own one.

IF you are operating in an isolated pool, that has no connection with a stream, you are legal! The Game dept likes to try to make a case, but they do not have a leg to stand on. You see, here, its Fish and Wildlife... the game wardens, who say silt kills fish. Still, suction dredges are used all the time, here, and in the streams.

I would like to know what happens to all the fish, in spring flood, as some of our rivers carry a naturally heavy silt load?

Another argument is the silt covers up eggs, well most of the northern fish spawn late in the summer or even fall. OK, by the time one can get out on the river, after the June high water, here, the salmon should be hatched and gone! Its all stuff generated by educated bums who have nothing else to do but dream up problems.

Then, on the other hand, I have used suction dredges (4 inch was the biggest) and I find they are not so great and not what is claimed. The high rate processing is not in packed river gravel, its in loose stuff, hauled in to the dredge factory, for play. In other words, they are like the nokta argument.

Good for nuggets but not so good for fine stuff.

I would rather use a macvac, they are legal. More thorough, too. Some even come with a pack system, which frees your hands but I dont think I would like a roaring, 2 cycle motor, on MY back.

Anyway, here, you can only mine in and next to streams, by hand, no machinery. That means no loaders, no trommels, no dredges. the most you can do is hand loaded sluice boxes.

And its spreading... the greenies are behind it. Next thing you know, we wont be able to eat meat, killing a polluting beef will be murder. Wise

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2009, 10:26:55 am »
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Cant have duplicate posts when the system twitches!


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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2009, 08:10:47 pm »
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The GPAA needs to get involved and do something besides talk! A revolt is good now and then, it cleans out the crap. We need to clean house big time. For the people by the people not take from the people and stick it to the people. I got big news for those brain childs. If you out law it, I will be an outlaw. Then stand by! Angry

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