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« on: July 08, 2009, 10:51:20 pm »
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It Took 4 Months To ID My Oldest Patent Find

On 12-29-08 I found this.

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July 21, 1863. That is my oldest patent date, to date.

I kept runnin into dead ends. One problem I had is that
it is a British patent, and I did not know it. But, finally, I
discovered what this patent goes to. 

I do not have a drawing, but in May, 2009, I found this
description of the device.

English letters-patent No. 1830, dated July 21, 1863, and sealed
Jan. 19, 1864, were granted to William Naylor, of England, for
improvements in safety-valves and in apparatus connected therewith.
The specification describes his invention as consisting, "when using
a spring for resisting the valve from opening, in the employment of
a lever of the first order, one end resting by a suitable pin upon the
safety-valve, and the other end of the lever resting upon the spring,
the end resting upon the spring being bent downwards to an angle
of about forty-five degrees from the fulcrum, so that when the valve
is raised by the steam the other end of the lever is depressed upon
the spring downwards, and at the same time is moved inwards towards
the  fulcrum, thus virtually shortening the end of the lever, and there
by counteracting the additional load upon the valve as it is raised from
its seat by the greater amount of compression put upon the spring". He
also describes a contrivance consisting of a lateral branch or escape-
passage for a portion of the steam after it has passed the valve, the
valve being made to project over the edges of the exit-passage, the
projecting edges of the valve being made to curve slightly downwards,
so that the steam on issuing between the valve and its seat will impinge
against the curved projecting portion of the valve, and a portion of it
be directed downwards into the annular chamber surrounding the
central passage, which chamber communicates at once with the branch
exit-pipe, whilst the other portion of the steam ascends past the edges
of the valve. He then says, "By this means I am enabled to avail
myself of the recoil action of the steam against the valve, for the
purpose of facilitating the further lifting of such valve when once
opened; but I wish it to be understood that I lay no claim to such
recoil action, nor to the extension of the valve laterally beyond its
seat."


Are you bored yet?

Well, that is just a part of a water pump.

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This is an American patented pump that houses the
British patented device.

The pump was installed at Little Rock Water works in
1886.

Here is a photo of tha boiler for tha water pump.

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Hope that was not too boring, but I am kind of proud of
my ID.

Thanks fer lOOkin,

Tabdog


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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 12:00:29 am »
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Wow that's some awesome detective work you've done there! Congrats on Id'ing it!!!  Great

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 02:08:12 am »
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An very interesting find.

there would be a nameplate to that boiler, a firetube thing, with manufacturing date and applicable patents plus test pressure. If you care to take a second look, a pic of the inside would be appreciated here.

quote " the recoil action of the steam against the valve," ---this is the operating principle behind most steam safety valves (of a later date).

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 07:14:01 am »
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Quote:Posted by oldsparks
An very interesting find.

there would be a nameplate to that boiler, a firetube thing, with manufacturing date and applicable patents plus test pressure. If you care to take a second look, a pic of the inside would be appreciated here.

quote " the recoil action of the steam against the valve," ---this is the operating principle behind most steam safety valves (of a later date).

tks

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Quote:Posted by oldsparks
An very interesting find.

there would be a nameplate to that boiler, a firetube thing, with manufacturing date and applicable patents plus test pressure. If you care to take a second look, a pic of the inside would be appreciated here.

quote " the recoil action of the steam against the valve," ---this is the operating principle behind most steam safety valves (of a later date).

tks

cr

Hay CR,

I have tried to find a name plate on the boiler,
but have been unable to find one.

I might add that that description of the patented
device was taken from a law suit. I did not investigate
to find out what the law suit was about.

I was satisfied to find the origin of tha patent.

I will still investigate tha site however. I have
made some really nice finds there.

I will up-date you when I get pics of tha inside.

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 10:22:02 am »
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Judging from that picture it look real simuliar to one i've seen here in Berea,Ohio. Berea was the leader in sandstone quarring and I remember when I was younger that they recovered one from Coe Lake in Berea. I'm not sure what ever happened to it but the Berea Historical Society should know.....good huntin'

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 07:46:00 am »
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tabdog;

Really interesting! The info, that was on the boiler, may be a brass plate or heavy sheet brass... Im sure you are looking for it as I type... heh.

The picture of the pump reminds me of the (more or less standard) conformation of oil rig mud pumps, found all over NW Canada. Why change a good design?

I hated History, when I was in school, now.....

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 08:07:08 am »
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Hay Bryan,

I am tha same way. I hated history in school also. Now........

It is interestin. That device with tha 1863 British patent date
is the invention that allowed the first twin cylindar pumps like
that to work.

That particular pump is one of tha most common of those first
2 cylinder pumps.

If you follow the development of the water systems, you follow
the developement of the towns as well.

It stated on a map the date and type of pump that was installed
at Little Rock. That is tha same pump that used tha device with
tha patent date I found. The pump was installed in 1889.

To most people, that is a worthless piece of iron.

To me, it is a treasure.

My treasure,

Tabdog

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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 08:59:31 am »
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Hey! tabdog, what time have you got? Ive got 753 AM PST (In winter we are MST and summer PST, cuz we never change)

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Hey! tabdog, what time have you got? Ive got 753 AM PST (In winter we are MST and summer PST, cuz we never change)

Brian AKA goldigger (sleepless in Dawson Creek)


Well,

Right now, it is 12:04 PM.

I am on Central Standard time.

We do go on DLST here.

HH,

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 10:39:46 pm »
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sweet find,congrads on the detective work as well.

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