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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 02:16:52 pm »
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  Well now that they have shown there colors, I do NOT respect the UN.  I will NOT partake in any of there actions.  They Have NO Legal Actions in the UNITED STATES!   I dough they have any legal actions in this case.   Muslim nations seem to have taken over the show.  What to hell is the UN doing in the USA?  We just pay to cut our own throats.  

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2015, 02:33:27 pm »
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"THey Have NO Legal Actions in the UNITED STATES! "

I hate to break it to you, but if the US is a signatory to a treaty that gives them the ability to take legal action in the United States and the Senate has ratified that treaty, then according to the Constitution of the United States (Article II, Section 2, Clause 2), they do have legal authority.  You might want to check out

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for a list of US sites that are currently on the UNESCO World Heritage List (and check some of the other tabs on that site such as the links to applicable US laws.....knowledge is power, ignorance is an exploitable weakness)

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2015, 04:00:15 pm »
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    I never Pledged Allegiance to the UN.    They have NO Powers over me Period.        I do not recognize any powers outside the USA .  I would go Native on there butts if they try to enforce any outside Laws on me.   Let the Battle Begin.    

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2015, 05:25:16 pm »
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      You pledged to support and defend the constitution of the United States of America. Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2 of said constitution makes treaties entered into by the United States of America the law of the land provided the treaty is ratified by 2/3rds of the Senate.   A ratified treaty that gives the United Nations legal standing within the United States would be the law of the land---subject, of course, to judicial review and interpretation just as the courts tend to claim to have final and supreme say in all matters (after all, judges are,  by the mere fact they are members of the judiciary, superior in reasoning, morality, judgement, etc to anyone is society not seated on a higher court of law than they).
      If you want to learn more about the actual relation between international treaties (including those establishing the UN and its various organizations) and US law, you can start with these two sources:

 

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http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1983&context=facpub
where you will find this statement in the conclusion.

"This Article has argued that the Constitution establishes a straightforward
rule regarding the judicial enforcement of treaties. By declaring
treaties to have the force of law, the Supremacy Clause makes
them enforceable in the courts in the same circumstances as statutory
and constitutional provisions of like content. The Founders understood
that treaties were contracts between nations that, on the international
plane, depended on interest and honor for their efficacy. In order
to avoid international friction that might lead to war and to
capture the benefits of a reputation for treaty compliance, they made
treaties enforceable in our courts as a matter of domestic constitutional
law. The single exception to the requirement of equivalent treatment
concerns treaties that are non-self-executing in the sense contemplated
by Foster v. Neilson..."


Individual opinion to the contrary does not change the facts or the law.....only combined action can do that.

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2015, 05:53:10 pm »
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    Yes your Right.   I did do the Oath.. And as a Oath taker I find this Treaty Contrary to the good of my Country and Constitution.  I will do what ever I can to Subvert the Treaty like they did signing the shit to the United States.  One Millions Post will be made tonight.  



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