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« on: July 25, 2009, 02:21:38 am »
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OOps! Forgot to ask opinions on a secondhand Tesoro Toltec 100 I've been offered, I know it's an old machine, but is working ok. Would it be any good as a learniing tool for me?
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 03:03:43 am »
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Hello Tony,

well the Toltec 100 was my first own metal detector and that's been long long ago. Back then it was a very good coin shooter and still is competable with todays' starter machines like Garrett Ace 150. It gives good target ID is not very difficult to use and has good pin pointing. On the other hand it sometimes is picky on mineralized ground giving false signals and is not very deep seeking. So if the price is no more than 100 GBP at max I think it would be okay.

Let us know if you go for it and I can give you some hints.

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 04:14:01 am »
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Hi Christian,
Many thanks for moving the post to the Tesoro board for me, I should have known to post it there.
The machine should arrive on Thursday, I gave ?70 for it including delivery from good old Ebay, I can't wait to get it and resume the hobby.
I would really appreciate any hints and tips please, as I said a long time away from the hobby, older and not as quick to learn now, so all help warmly appreciated.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 05:34:35 am »
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Hello Tony,

at 70 Pounds you can't go wrong!

Best set the sensitivity to 7 - 8 or if needed as low as 6 so the machine doesn't get noisy. Disc only to 1 - 2 whioch should be enough to discriminate smal iron nails. Larger iron will give a different audio response. Forget about the Pin Pointing knob just doe some X (cross) sweeping. Also the notch filter can be ignored. As fas as the meter goes:

The needle in the middle position is likely to be lead or copper. On left it is often good stuff like silver. The needle getting on the right is likely junk.

Best do some testing with test objects in your backyard fist.

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 11:40:40 am »
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Thanks Christian,
I've got some idea of where to start now.
I'll let you know when I get my first pull tab!
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 12:27:19 pm »
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Hello Tony . Just be carefull on your Toltec 100 discrimination settings in respect to iron . When you get your machine do some air tests by placing good coins and rusty iron objects / nails spread out on a large piece of cardboard and on a wooden table . Sweep across with your search coil several times while making adjustments . See how it performs for its age . Then go out in the field . Try different search coils if you have them for that machine ............I know you will make some good finds but keep a written log of your hunting locations and when you upgrade to a more expensive machine , you can go back to re-check all your good hunting places .......Best Regards.......Eugene

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2009, 12:35:00 pm »
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Quote:Posted by Eugene52
Hello Tony . Just be carefull on your Toltec 100 discrimination settings in respect to iron . When you get your machine do some air tests by placing good coins and rusty iron objects / nails spread out on a large piece of cardboard and on a wooden table . Sweep across with your search coil several times while making adjustments . See how it performs for its age . Then go out in the field . Try different search coils if you have them for that machine ............I know you will make some good finds but keep a written log of your hunting locations and when you upgrade to a more expensive machine , you can go back to re-check all your good hunting places .......Best Regards.......Eugene


Hello Everyone . I almost forgot , but Here is latest copy rev. 3 of the Toltec 100 schematic:
Regards.......Eugene

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 06:42:14 am »
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Hi Guys,
My Toltec arrived this morning, took it into the garden and found coins that my  (many) previous detectors had missed. I'm off now to play again using the advice you guys have given me. I must admit I was a bit taken aback by the sheer numbers of knobs and dials on it, but I'm sure I'll pick it up eventually.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 08:14:40 am »
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Quote:Posted by tonybrentwood
Hi Guys,
My Toltec arrived this morning, took it into the garden and found coins that my  (many) previous detectors had missed. I'm off now to play again using the advice you guys have given me. I must admit I was a bit taken aback by the sheer numbers of knobs and dials on it, but I'm sure I'll pick it up eventually.
Best regards,
Tony.


Best of luck to ya.

Pay close attention to what Christian told you.

He is right on.

I do not know how some one could have made
it more simple and accurate.

Good job Christian, and good luck Tony,

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 10:14:34 am »
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Quote:Posted by tonybrentwood
Hi Guys,
My Toltec arrived this morning, took it into the garden and found coins that my  (many) previous detectors had missed. I'm off now to play again using the advice you guys have given me. I must admit I was a bit taken aback by the sheer numbers of knobs and dials on it, but I'm sure I'll pick it up eventually.
Best regards,
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Hello Tony . For the money you got a good machine , and I know you will do great on setting the controls properly . Plus your getting good advice from Everybody !!!!  As I said earlier Iron Masking was more of a problem on the earlier Tesoro's with the ED-90 discrimination circuitry . So in trashy areas sweep your search coil a little slower , or use a smaller search coil . Keep us posted on your finds and the Toltec100's performance in your favorite hunting areas.....  Great...Best Regards......Eugene

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