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« on: November 09, 2010, 07:39:50 am »
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This lump of metal was stumbled upon in shallow sea water.
Specific gravity was determined by (weight in air)/(loss of weight when suspended in water) to be 8.0256. Am guessing it's some form of copper/bronze.

Two things about it which I find a tad unusual:
1) The half-melted lumpy surface. I wonder if it was part of some war machine or munitions that was exposed to great heat.

2) The blueish layer. Copper would not oxidize to that color as far as I know. Maybe it's old paint. There's some small round-ish white deposits on it which appear to be the remnants of barnacles/limpet or some kind of sea creature's growth, and the blue color is within those deposits as well.



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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2010, 02:11:02 am »
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Piece of a blown-up brass cannon? Either way, cool find and good luck identifying.

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 02:29:38 am »
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Looks like a piece of fragmented meteor,pending your local of find which may help.Composition of such varies.Had one in my hands found by friend this past year,but of Arizona.Same size approximately.Could be worth a few to you,to check it out.

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2010, 04:53:49 am »
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Meteorite maybe...

Will buy it from you if you want to sell..

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2010, 06:40:56 am »
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Quote:Posted by seanengman
Piece of a blown-up brass cannon? Either way, cool find and good luck identifying.

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Thank you Sean. I'm gonna go poke around the area again when the tide is lowest. If it was part of a cannon, maybe there's more bits around!

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Looks like a piece of fragmented meteor,pending your local of find which may help.Composition of such varies.Had one in my hands found by friend this past year,but of Arizona.Same size approximately.Could be worth a few to you,to check it out.


Xxxp, you just opened up another possibility which I never thought of. It may be a meteorite! *big grin* If it is, it'll be my first one! Do you think I should try to apply some metal polish to remove that blueish layer? I'll have to do some research on how meteorites are handled.

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Meteorite maybe...

Will buy it from you if you want to sell..

Thank you Edjcox. This piece is a keeper, but I find more fragments, I'll PM you and give you first pick!

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2010, 07:49:23 am »
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Send a picture to Mr. Meteorite, Ruben Garcia, in Phoenix, AZ he will tell you if it is a meteorite. Looks to me like one, but not an expert. He is. Trust me this guy is very well known as a meteorite expert. Find him here:

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Good luck and if it is one, you may have a few hundred dollars or more in your hand. Either way, a very interesing piece.

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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2010, 07:59:05 am »
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I chanced across this page which may explain the metal's blue color:

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"Belgian "Land Artist", Jean Verame.
He actually made 1000 "bronze meteorite", some of them painted in blue (!), and dropped them over the Sahara Desert from a plane in 1995. 5 of those "bronze meteorite" only, have been recovered so far, and one of them (#606 / 1000) is shown on our site :
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All the links are 404. I'll be writing in to the website owner and asking for photos of those blue "meteorites" to compare with. But more questions arise: I'm thousands of kilometers from the Sahara; unless that Belgian chap decided to drop a few fake space rocks on Borneo island or some copycat did that here, it's still a mystery to me.

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Send a picture to Mr. Meteorite, Ruben Garcia, in Phoenix, AZ he will tell you if it is a meteorite. Looks to me like one, but not an expert. He is. Trust me this guy is very well known as a meteorite expert. Find him here:

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Good luck and if it is one, you may have a few hundred dollars or more in your hand. Either way, a very interesing piece.


Thank you so much for the info, Cyberborikua. If this lump isn't one of those fakes made by the Belgian artist I mentioned in my last post, I will surely drop Mr Meteorite an email!

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Due to wear on the item,which i have seen of "old gold" of Placer fields,it possibly is a meteor or your area of volcanic activity.definitely not a "war" item especially recent in 100 years.I would not clean it an do leave has as is.Reason:Not to long ago here in Arizona,fellow had a door stop for years,till pal noted it was a meteor one day and took it to the U.of Arizona.The published value was over $50,000.00 u.s.d.,just a few years ago.You mention Borneo.Well right to Australia is a lot of meteor land.And if you saw the "Jupiter Hit" by asteroid in full,you'd note fragmentation spread can be "global".So who knows,except a university an of metallurgical ability.
I'd got to a Prof.at a University first.You Never Know What Comes In On The Radar.That's how they found that Mars rock some years ago ,due to a global interest for a project,I believe.

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 06:18:31 pm »
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Good luck with it. I suspect your in the money.. The discolorations is simply chemical from the immersion. The face appears to have the rivulets from superheating...

Do not polish or cut until you get it officially identifed. You may have a very valuable space rock there. Chances are slim that ther's any more near where you found it. May I ask where precisely?

Keep looking the earth will give up her bounty to those that do..

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It looks like ultramafic rock

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