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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 07:37:51 am »
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Here is the page i meant to send you, you will find it  about half way down.Hope this helps
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 07:39:45 am »
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They used mine slage for float on those old tracks.  The copper color is just deposits and stain.



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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 10:53:21 am »
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Wow!  You found a lot of stuff along the RR.  Good going.  I grew up about a block and a half from a railroad line in the 1950's to early 60's.  Every so often we would have to take some pennies down and flatten them.  Don't have any left, don't know what happened to them.  Thanks for the memory and for sharing.  Crazy

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 01:17:34 pm »
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Real nice finds on the plates,The joint where two rails are connected is the weakest part of a rail line. The earliest iron rails were joined by a simple fishplate or bar of metal bolted through the web of the rail. Stronger methods of joining two rails together have been developed. When sufficient metal is put into the rail joint, the joint is almost as strong as the rest of the rail length. Check this

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still checking out the bolts, I will get back to you

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Posted on: June 13, 2011, 10:11:26 PM
Cyberborikua, here are some of the bolts I have traced back to a kilby flatbed lumber car from 1889,pretty close to your bolt. looks like your on to a line like mine thats a lot of iron. Good luck
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Thanks Lou. I read from your links and am learning a lot about RR systems. Wow one of the plates was still attached to a wooden pole. Had no idea the plate  was in its right place.  Shocked Impressive.

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Wow!  You found a lot of stuff along the RR.  Good going.  I grew up about a block and a half from a railroad line in the 1950's to early 60's.  Every so often we would have to take some pennies down and flatten them.  Don't have any left, don't know what happened to them.  Thanks for the memory and for sharing.  Crazy


Just untapped the tip of the iceberg  Cheesy. That's a great site that will give for months or years to come. I'll collect all the smashed coins found and possibly trade them too.

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They used mine slage for float on those old tracks.  The copper color is just deposits and stain.




People you are really intriguing me with those flattened coins. I'll apply a silver test to the quarter and the ones coming up next.

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 08:43:24 pm »
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Finds of 6-14-11: Went back to the RR bed and found some other items. Two pressure clamps and more flattened coins. I also detected three more tie plates, but will take them some other day for I had no tools with me and was MDing solo. Also found a 1991 token, a bunch of pennies again, some clad quarters, and a 1952-S Wheaty as well.  Rider

P.S. - I just read that the 1991 Namco token has some nice value, about $5.00  Great

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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 11:11:33 am »
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Nice finds your starting to get hot on that railroad site,maybe you will did up an engine?

nice lot of coins,like I said I cant find any coins for the life of me still looking!

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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 06:39:23 pm »
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Cyberborikua, Frogs are the square metal plates that support the rails. They have either 2 or 4 holes to accept the spikes. That was what my childhood friend who's father worked on the railroad told me. gambol

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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 07:16:40 pm »
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You all can have fun too if you get the right Maps.

Here are my Stomping Grounds.

We have tons of maps in the Map Boards.

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Cyberborikua, Frogs are the square metal plates that support the rails. They have either 2 or 4 holes to accept the spikes. That was what my childhood friend who's father worked on the railroad told me. gambol


Thanks. Now I know what they are. What I don't still know is how old they might be. Although the Chicago RR systems are mostly all old. The particular area I am covering led to antique industrial zones that do not exist now. Weird is that the oldest coin found so far is a 1952 S wheat penny. But I know there are older ones and I'll find them.  Wink

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Ya right Homefire, I was looking at old Chicago maps and was impressed to learn how many RR systems we had and still have. On Google Earth I saw entire train engines with passenger cars still on the rails and abandoned for years!  Shocked

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Homefire, thanks for the map link. I looked at it but didn't find what I 've been looking for. A 1942 topo published by War Department Corps of Engineers I have one sheet and would like to get the 6 surronding sheets. It shows houses and schools at that time. very accurately located.

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