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	old nail finds « on: May 02, 2010, 11:26:42 pm »

these appear to be older, and blacksmith crafted. anyone know anyomore on them?

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 05:46:08 pm »

Nope but interesting..seems way back in my memory I have seen some like them in my grandpa's shed?? But that would have been 30-40 years ago.

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 06:50:04 pm »

the heads of these nails are not completely round like newer nails, that's what i've found interesting about these, they're almost in a weird oval / diamond shape.

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 07:31:23 pm »

I found those hand forged nails in a 1890s house i was remodeling,cool find.

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 08:05:22 pm »

Toleary, A typical handforged nail head is finished with 3 hammer blows. When You look down on them from the top you see 3 flats.

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 08:07:40 pm »

three flats meaning layers? or imprints?

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 09:14:51 pm »

Where did you find them?

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 09:37:52 pm »

these were found on an original pioneer homestead that had been lived on by five different families over a hundred + year time period. there was an older gentleman whose family owns the property. he is a collector of Indian artifacts and was interested in my endeavors to find and dig up history. he also told me of a cache of 20 dollar gold pieces that was buried in the area a long long time ago. he told me that he knew for a fact that the gold was real, and that it was not just another story. he let me loose on his land, saying that he would rather me find any piece of history that i could and dig it up, because the land will be developed soon, and he wants anything that can be found to be found.

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 07:46:50 am »

flats meaning hammer marks. This came from a book on colonial blacksmithing. Iron Hardware was scarce in the colonies because of the distance and import tariff imposed by England. Therefore a lot of time was required to make things like nails. A "good" smith could forge a nail head in one heat and 4 blows. The first being the upsetting blow that put a bulb on the end of the nail rod, the second third and fourth shaped the nail head into a 3 faced pyramid. Nails were so expensive that old buildings were often burned down to collect their nails. Wood being cheap. Spikes had 4 blows forming a square and large headed fasteners had 6 or more. The nails were square because it took fewer hammer strokes to make a square rod than a round one.

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	Re: old nail finds « Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 10:32:54 pm »

thank you very much for the info and picture explaining the hammer hits Violent

and the way that it forms the head of the nail. i am still looking at these trying to decide if i cant tell if they're blacksmith made or not. also, thank you for the info on the burning down of buildings to get nails....that's a pretty smart idea, i didn't know that they did that. i found some today that i believe are blacksmith made. look for the pictures on here tomorrow, when i get time to take and post some, and let me know what you.
here are a couple longer nails i found at the ruins o f an old mill that was started in 1871. the head on the one in person looks like the pyramid effect you were referring to

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