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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2009, 09:28:29 am »
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Tabdog is making everyone take a closer look at Tesoro with the great finds he's posting!
Tabdog, is Tesoro paying you? Grin Just kiddin', Buddy.
I wonder if a Tesoro works well in highly mineralized/magnetic soil? Idea

HH yall. Great post, Tabdog, Great
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Hay Ken,

I wish they would pay me. I do believe in the machines.
But it is not all machine. As a matter of fact, it is much
less machine and much more the person.

Tesoroes do not work in highly mineralized ground that
well. I can do OK with them. Others have a hard time.

The Lobo can do well. It is a deticated gold machine.

The new Lobo Super Track is OK, but it only really works
well in the all metal mode. The older Lobo is better.

Whites DI 5900 DI is known to work.

There are others that will do better in bad ground,
most are expensive.

Another thing, with the deep detectors out now,
Tesoro is not concidered that deep except for the
Tejon.

It is just that Tesoro is my cup of tea.

It is a good, light and smooth detector that likes
to eat gold,

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2009, 06:00:26 pm »
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Tabdog, What kind of depth can you get with the Lobo?

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2009, 06:04:52 pm »
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Tabdog, What kind of depth can you get with the Lobo?


He can dig as deep as the shaft allows him to dig if he uses it as a shovel, mate.

The real answer depends on so many factors that the question is really moot. The size of the object, soil conditions, orientation of the object and the phase of the moon all affect depth. Oops. Did I say phase of the moon? Scratch that one. Sorry.

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It's all about that moment when metal that hasn't seen the light of day for generations frees itself from the soil and presents itself to me.
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2009, 06:12:27 pm »
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Tabdog, What kind of depth can you get with the Lobo?


I have never used one.

It may be dissapointing on coins, if you are looking
for deep coins. I am not sure. But it should be average.

It is heavy, but it is sensative to small gold objects.

Most Tesoroes have trouble picking up a coin at 8 inches.
7 inches is about it.

The H.O.T. machines are a little deeper, especially the Tejon.

The Lobo will work in some very bad conditions that would
send most packing. It is good on gold.

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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2009, 06:22:53 pm »
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Quote:Posted by GoldDigger1950
He can dig as deep as the shaft allows him to dig if he uses it as a shovel, mate.

The real answer depends on so many factors that the question is really moot. The size of the object, soil conditions, orientation of the object and the phase of the moon all affect depth. Oops. Did I say phase of the moon? Scratch that one. Sorry.

 Grin GD you really brighten my day with your quick wit, mate. Kiss

I should have stated that coins would be my main target. Part of the lot I am detecting on has had some bulldozing and maybe as much as 10 inches of soil added from leveling the lot. The location of the two main old houses (there were 4 houses in all) is where my research leads me to believe that I could possibly find the most coins and maybe even a little gold here and there. Needless to say my Garrett falls way short.
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2009, 06:50:52 pm »
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Well the Compadre has built-in mineral rejection so it might be just what I need in this trashy mineralized environment. The price isn't bad either! Great

HH,
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Quote:Posted by kendavid
Well the Compadre has built-in mineral rejection so it might be just what I need in this trashy mineralized environment. The price isn't bad either! Great

HH,
Ken


I have heard that they do poorly in bad ground from a few.
I am not convenced they ever learned the machine.

I have had good results in mineralized soils and gravel.

Monte is a person who is very knowledgeble about Tesoros
and other brands. His publishings are well known.

Here is a quote by him,

"This particular playground has woodchips in part of it, but ugly pea gravel in all of the newer play area. After a few minutes searching without any signals (worked out?) I provided a little on-the-spot demonstration.  I toe scuffed aside about 1?" to 2" of pea gravel, placed a shiny zinc penny flat in the bottom, then leveled the pea gravel out. Minimum Discrimination with the Silver ?MAX = NOTHING. All Metal (motion Disc.) with the Silver ?MAX = NOTHING. Minimum Disc. with the Conquistador ?MAX = NOTHING. Using the Conquistador ?MAX's true All Metal mode you got a good hit on the penny, but couldn't comfortable search in that mode because the GB was too negative for that high mineralization and you would hear constant rises and falls in the audio over the uneven surface. Cibola at minimum Disc. = NOTHING. Tejon at minimum Disc., like the Eldorado, COMPADRE, and my personal favorite, my modified IDX Pro, and you got a solid audio 'hit' on the penny that was maybe just 2" deep."

If that aint enough,

"Several years ago, on one of my trips to the Central Oregon homesteads I mentioned, I decided to hang onto one of the rocks for future evaluation purposes. I call it my "Homestead Rock." It measures about 9" long, 6" wide, and 2" thick. It actually serves two purposes and that is to provide a sample of a somewhat mineralized ore (although a lot of the ground I hunt around here actually calls for a higher GB setting), and as a solid-body or mass specimen that is not too thick and allows me to compare different makes and models ability to handle a 'bad ground' challenge and still respond.

You see, when I come upon a site that has a lot of scatter rocks from a fallen-down chimney or wall, I prefer to not have to move them all out of my way. Instead, I like to search in an all metal accept motion Disc. mode and then move ONLY those rocks that have a metal target under them. Once I move the rock I can re-sweep the spot and get a more accurate target response and, if I have TOID, a 'proper' or close to correct TID read-out.

So, I keep my 'Homestead Rock' with me so I can use it in quick evaluations of different detectors. I can lay a zinc cent on the ground, directly under this rock, and if I sweep over it with a model that really offers true full target acceptance in the Disc. mode (true ED-180), it will ignore the 'ground signal' (of the rock) and pass along the target response. The Lobo SuperTRAQ, Tej?n, Vaquero, and Compadre will do that of the models offered today. So will the original Lobo and Eldorado (?MAX version)."


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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2009, 07:19:34 pm »
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That was quite helpful. Smiley Thanks Tabdog. It gave me an idea.. Idea

HH yall,

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