[x] Welcome at THunting.com!

A fun place to talk about Metal Detecting, Treasure Hunting & Prospecting. Here you can share finds and experience with thousands of members from all over the world

Join us and Register Now - Its FREE & EASY

THunting.com
Treasure Hunting & Metal Detecting Community
   
Advanced Search
*
Welcome, Guest! Please login or register HERE - It is FREE and easy.
Only registered users can post and view images on our message boards.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with email, password and session length
Or Login Using Social Network Account
News:
Pages: 1    Go Down
Print
Share this topic on FacebookShare this topic on Del.icio.usShare this topic on DiggShare this topic on RedditShare this topic on Twitter
Tags:
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Offline Eugene52Topic starter
M.D. Electronic Builders Club
Gold Member
*

Mood:Happy
Happy

M.D. Electronic Builders Club
Join Date: Dec, 2008
Thank you398

Activity
0%
Male
United States
Posts: 2630
Referrals: 0

17957.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Teknetics , Fisher , Discovery3300 and TIANXUN 19 kHz VLF Metal Detector
« on: May 25, 2011, 04:23:46 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Hot off the Press , at least I hope so !!!

HH.............Eugene



You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_re_us/us_shipwreck_treasure





Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176811.html#msg176811

Logged
Let's Talk Treasure right here on Thunting.com
Offline ArfieBoy
Knight
Gold Member
*

Join Date: Apr, 2011
Thank you294

Activity
3%
Male
United States
Posts: 3426
Referrals: 0

16031.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Compass X-70; Compass X-200; Compass Coin Scanner Pro II; Whites Coinmaster 2/DB Series 2
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 04:39:51 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Very interesting story.  Isn't that just like the big guys and government...   they don't want to do the research or the recovery, but they sure want to get their hand in there and grab a handfull of the loot!

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176816.html#msg176816


ArfieBoy

Logged
Government can not give anything to anyone...  without first taking it from someone else!
Offline Homefire
Global Moderator
Platin Member
*****

Join Date: Jan, 2009
Thank you662

Activity
0%
Male
United States
Posts: 15906
Referrals: 0

52360.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 05:16:50 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Now that there is a funny story.

The Spanish Stole the Gold from What was to become Peru.

The Peru people are fighting the U.S. Government and the Spanish to get it back.

The American government is cutting the Throats of some of it's own citizens making behind the scenes

 deals with the Spanish folks promising the Loot in exchange for Painting that was Stolen by the Nazis back in WWII


Except the folks that found it, there Pirates the Whole Lot!   LOL!   

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176828.html#msg176828

Logged
Offline ArfieBoy
Knight
Gold Member
*

Join Date: Apr, 2011
Thank you294

Activity
3%
Male
United States
Posts: 3426
Referrals: 0

16031.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Compass X-70; Compass X-200; Compass Coin Scanner Pro II; Whites Coinmaster 2/DB Series 2
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 05:34:49 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Quote:Posted by homefire
Now that there is a funny story.

The Spanish Stole the Gold from What was to become Peru.

The Peru people are fighting the U.S. Government and the Spanish to get it back.

The American government is cutting the Throats of some of it's own citizens making behind the scenes

 deals with the Spanish folks promising the Loot in exchange for Painting that was Stolen by the Nazis back in WWII


Except the folks that found it, there Pirates the Whole Lot!   LOL!   


Very true, Homfire, very true!  There is a whole shipload of irony in that situation!   Shocked

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176835.html#msg176835


ArfieBoy

Logged
Government can not give anything to anyone...  without first taking it from someone else!
Offline GoldHound
Bronze Member
*

Join Date: Apr, 2011
Thank you0

Activity
0%
Male
Australia
Posts: 108
Referrals: 0

480.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Garrett Ace350, AT Pro, Deluxe Pointer and a much older ADS VLF/TR Deepseeker (purchased new in the 70's) - Bounty Hunter Pioneer 505 - AutoMax Pin-pointer (which is crap) / soon a GPX 5000 Minelab and Garrett Infinium
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 09:06:59 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Thanks for posting this one, very interesting.

In my opinion for what its worth I can't see what the issue is here other then greed. Clearly this is about money and a cast of many trying to get their hands on some. Interesting also that desendants also feel they have a right or claim to something that was most likely a right those that sailed on the ship did not have in the first place.

I think issues like this can be complicated by historical value etc however if the pieces are just precious metals in transit then those that found it should have first rights to it. If pieces are of historical value then those claiming rights to it should pay a fair price to have them. Without the costly actions of the treasure hunters in finding such items they would remain lost and thats it, at least now there is a chance to learn from the finds and for those claiming rights of ownership to negotiate a fair price if they really want/care for these items.

Its so easy for those that don't do the work to seek the easy rout and I think these are the Pirates not those that put the hard effort in and re-discoved this treasure. After all did Spain send out anyone to locate this shipwreck, did it ever pay someone to find it or did it take any action or risk to recover this stuff before these guys found it, I don't think so....  Idiot

I think its a bit rich from them to try and claim ownership now.

I'm also concerned that any court would use such examples for concerns of consequences to future finds belonging to the US as a basis in which to not rule in favour of those that found these items.

Basing rulings on matters not yet before any court is very dangerous indeed and I hope they win this fight.  Fight

Thats as silly as saying we will not send your man to jail for murder even though we know he did it because in future you might have our man in your country for the same thing and we would want you to return him, regardless of any laws he has broken....  Crazy





Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176879.html#msg176879

« Last Edit: May 25, 2011, 09:14:45 pm by GoldHound » 		Logged
"There's Gold in them there Hills, just got to get of your arse and find it..."
Thanks Mr Garrett, love your work...
"A bad day's detecting with the family is better then any the kids would spend watching TV." Me....
Offline Homefire
Global Moderator
Platin Member
*****

Join Date: Jan, 2009
Thank you662

Activity
0%
Male
United States
Posts: 15906
Referrals: 0

52360.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 09:24:37 pm »
Go Up Go Down
To add to the Cluster Frap, They found the goodies in International waters.

What is Spain doing holding known stolen painting?

What's the deal with the gov's interest in the Returning of the Paintings at the cost of lost taxes generated by the Treasure?



Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176880.html#msg176880

Logged
Offline GoldHound
Bronze Member
*

Join Date: Apr, 2011
Thank you0

Activity
0%
Male
Australia
Posts: 108
Referrals: 0

480.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Garrett Ace350, AT Pro, Deluxe Pointer and a much older ADS VLF/TR Deepseeker (purchased new in the 70's) - Bounty Hunter Pioneer 505 - AutoMax Pin-pointer (which is crap) / soon a GPX 5000 Minelab and Garrett Infinium
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 10:07:58 pm »
Go Up Go Down
It all sounds very suss...

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg176884.html#msg176884

Logged
"There's Gold in them there Hills, just got to get of your arse and find it..."
Thanks Mr Garrett, love your work...
"A bad day's detecting with the family is better then any the kids would spend watching TV." Me....
Offline troydepp
Copper Member
*

Join Date: Apr, 2011
Thank you0

Activity
0%
Male
Montserrat
Posts: 28
Referrals: 0

155.00 Gold
View Inventory

WWW Awards

00000
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 02:49:20 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Sounds like typical backroom politics!

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg189316.html#msg189316

Logged
Offline Eugene52Topic starter
M.D. Electronic Builders Club
Gold Member
*

Mood:Happy
Happy

M.D. Electronic Builders Club
Join Date: Dec, 2008
Thank you398

Activity
0%
Male
United States
Posts: 2630
Referrals: 0

17957.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Teknetics , Fisher , Discovery3300 and TIANXUN 19 kHz VLF Metal Detector
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 05:44:33 pm »
Go Up Go Down
Fresh Today:

Scroll down through the advertising garbage and then you will see the article !!

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://news.yahoo.com/sunken-treasure-sparks-legal-tussle-163336209.html


Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg191672.html#msg191672

Logged
Let's Talk Treasure right here on Thunting.com
Offline ArfieBoy
Knight
Gold Member
*

Join Date: Apr, 2011
Thank you294

Activity
3%
Male
United States
Posts: 3426
Referrals: 0

16031.00 Gold
View Inventory

Awards

Compass X-70; Compass X-200; Compass Coin Scanner Pro II; Whites Coinmaster 2/DB Series 2
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 05:09:58 pm »
Go Up Go Down
 Idiot Same old, same old, isn't it?  Angry  Laughing

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,25418.msg191893.html#msg191893


ArfieBoy

Logged
Government can not give anything to anyone...  without first taking it from someone else!
Print
Pages: 1    Go Up
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2005, Simple Machines | Sitemap
Copyright THunting.com