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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 08:12:09 pm »
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no cant find the article that was on yahoo last week, but i knew it would get a rise out of you.  Grin  Grin
RO your alright , a little stickler for the details but your ok.

I will look if i can find it i will post it. Just for u.

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Basically the same thing yahoo said the US in with Spain - one of them u scratch my back and i will scratch ur back things and in the process Odyssey gets screwed .


Greetings....the link you posted is a wash. It is the same drama-filled gimmick that has been floating around on the internet and TBO for weeks.

I'll save you the countless hours of searching for something more definite....there ain't none. Nope...nothing validating/supporting Odyssey's claim(s) of the US doing them wrong.....according to the WikiLeak willy

I'm sure stock-holder Jeff will be along shortly and bestow us with many more Odyssey generated links   Wink

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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 08:22:28 pm »
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don't mind the back and forth, but try to keep it civil guys......there are enough devils involved on all sides of this issue that I doubt if any of the sides is without fault.  (personally unless the US can prove standing in the case, it should be barred from the case.....and if it can somehow prove standing, then it should be allowed to continue)

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 08:26:44 pm »
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It's Ok BA , I am not going to argue over it , personally it doesn't affect me so i really don't care how they settel it.

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 08:28:16 pm »
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Seems to be civil so far    Great

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 10:23:18 pm »
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For the most part,possession is 9/10 of the law.
Also keep in mind that that Gold/treasure has been down there for hundreds of years, was looted from Peru in the first place, and Spain made no effort to recover it on its own. And it  was found in international waters, not in Spanish territory.



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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 10:56:49 pm »
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I just like the show , I think its cool and the technology is great when its working !!

I find the show to be entertaining, but thats just me .

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2011, 09:14:13 am »
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I just like the show , I think its cool and the technology is great when its working !!

I find the show to be entertaining, but thats just me .


I concur    Great

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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2011, 10:26:27 am »
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The Vultures always show up when the kill is made.

They did the same thing to Mel Fisher and his finds.

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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2011, 02:53:33 am »
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Mel fishers Atocha.

WOW can you even imagine what that was like?

Johnny Carson was a friend of Mels and did a dive on the wreck with Mel when it was all happening and Johnny had the story on his show.

Some live footage for anyone interested in seeing it first hand is in the Carson archives.

The whole story was very painful for Mel if you look into it.Family members lost,legal battles etc.

Interesting as this may sound, my neighbor works for some deep Government agency that he won't discuss.....and he told me that Mel had found the Atocha with help from getting permission to use data from Government satellites that showed the wreck site (and others) using some type of inferred technology? It gave him the exact location.

As I have learned from our site that gold is inert and has no Aura, this would make no sense but my neighbor told me that this is truth.Period.

This guy walks the walk so to speak and other things that he has told me about all check out when I research them.
I have concluded that he is a bored genius with few friends and no one to talk to and he See's that I'm truly interested in this subject.And for the most part,I will never figure it out so I'm no threat?
He told me that if I do any searches on the web about this subject to always put Metal detecting or treasure hunting in the title because the subject of inferred is watched a lot by my Government?

So maybe Mel was a step a head of the Odyssey after all or maybe the Oddessy is a step a head of all of us?

Think about it,these guys are finding treasure and not like us " just reading about it ''.



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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2011, 12:58:14 am »
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Greg Stemm's Open Letter To President Obama...


?I guess he?s speaking to me as a CEO of an American company,? says Odyssey Marine CEO Greg Stemm, ?so I?d like to respond in an open letter to President Obama:

Yes, Mr. President!

I?m with you on this. We?ve been trying ? but it feels like our efforts are being sabotaged by our own government. We need your help ? and all we are asking for is an honest and level playing field.

We did ?get in the game,? hired lots of people, innovated and created a new industry out of wasted resources lost for centuries at the bottom of the ocean and abided by all applicable laws ? and I am sorry to report that the US Government is ?encouraging? us by trying to hand over the fruits of our labor to another government.

Your administration is trying to change long-standing US Government policy and is ?reinterpreting laws? midstream to appease a foreign government at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars to US investors ? hundreds of millions from our ?balance sheets? that we could unleash to create new jobs.

It even appears that our own government was offering to ?assist? a foreign government in our courts to literally steal hundreds of millions of dollars from the ?balance sheet? of the US shareholders who earned it. The US government is helping to ?return? property that the foreign government never owned or had any legal or ethical claim to.

How do I really feel about this?

It?s one thing when bureaucrats are beating you down ? you learn after awhile that this is just politics and business ? and sometimes you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. When you run a business, you learn to take the knocks that come from anti-business bureaucrats ? people who have never had to make payroll, never had to hire someone, never had to let someone go ? never created a job, and many who wouldn?t know how to begin to do these things.

We build our companies in spite of these obstacles and pray that we aren?t destroyed by a government employee who can inadvertently wipe out our business with the swipe of his or her pen.

That?s something we?ve learned to live with? reluctantly.

It?s quite another thing when the president asks you to ?get in the game? while the people under him go to great lengths to create problems for your company. I hope you can understand how frustrating that can be.

Mr. President, if you really want to encourage us to ?get in the game,? please send a message to the US State Department and the Justice Department to encourage them to be absolutely honest with the courts about the actual intent and meaning of the laws that have recently twisted to serve foreign interests.

Please encourage them to allow former US government employees, who drafted and understand the intent of these laws, to explain that intent to the courts.

Respond to the members of Congress who are calling for the State Department to allow the courts to do their work uninfluenced by politics and to back down from an anti-American business policy that is costing American jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars to US investors.

Please just tell the people who serve under you to be honest and do the right thing.

If you can do that, we?re hopeful that justice will be served in the US courts. When we are confident that the fruits of the labor of all our employees can go to our ?balance sheets,? instead of being stolen from our shareholders, we are ready to unleash that capital to help accelerate the economic recovery.

Sincerely,

Greg Stemm
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