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« on: December 06, 2010, 02:15:34 am »
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Has anyone been searching or researching this one?  There may be something still here.  I gave up looking 30 years ago but maybe with new equipment, it may be possible.  Bob A.

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 02:36:25 am »
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David Marteen (fl. 1663-1665) was a Dutch privateer based in Tortuga during the mid-17th century, known primarily as the sole non-English Captain who participated in the raids against Spanish strongholds in present-day Mexico and Nicaragua during 1663 until 1665. Although raids against the Spanish were prohibited under British law, he agreed to join Sir Henry Morgan's expedition and soon set sail from Port Royal along with John Morris and Captain's Jackman and Freeman under letters of marque issued by Governor Thomas Modyford.

After reaching the Grijalva River, Marteen and the others led their men 50 miles overland and successfully looted Villa Hermosa in a surprise raid. Returning to the coast, they discovered a Spanish patrol had captured their ships and, after a fierce battle, they managed to retake two barques and four Indian canoes. Marteen eventually made his way back with the others, raiding Spanish villages on the way, until their arrival in Port Royal in November 1665. Although Marteen served as a pirate hunter under Modyford during the next year, nothing more is known of his activities after this time.

There have been reports that Marteen led a group that later established a base in Connecticut, near the Farmington River and were wiped out during King Philip's war in 1676. There are a few treasure hunters seeking the evidence of Marteen's settlement and possible remnants of any undiscovered treasure.

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 04:51:25 am »
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Hello All

AH.......Seldom it seems you have few stories under your belt too. I have not heard that one before. Thanks for the interesting history lesson.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 12:15:59 pm »
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Hey Hardluck

Most of that came from the net somewhere. I have a few notes about Marteen's settlement that I picked up while searching for Champ d?Asile in Texas. I never found any proof of treasure but finding where the settlement was and the artifacts recovered could be worth there weight in gold.

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 06:40:44 pm »
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W.C. Jameson's book Buried Treasures of new England has five pages on Marteen.  There's also some info in the Spanish archives and a picture of an engraved stone that was published in a Springfield newspaper.  A number of treasure hunters have spent decades looking, researching, and generally muddying the waters whenever asked about what they've found.  If any of the reports are true, there should be cannons in the Farmington River that were either dumped to lighten ship or when the ship burned in King Phillip's War.  If those were found, it would be proof that the pirates came to Connecticut and died, leaving behind a treasure.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 07:42:35 pm »
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Thought Jamieson said it was near Granby on the east fork of the Salmon river?

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 11:55:52 pm »
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Marteen had up to three ships at times and a large group of pirates and their families.  Treasure was probably (according to Nelson and Ruches) buried in multiple locations.  And there is still the problem that treasure hunters lie,  writers and reporters make mistakes, and old men forget.  And we're talking about 335 years ago and interpreting Spanish, Dutch, French, etc..  Penmanship, grammar, bad maps - it's a nightmare.

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 07:35:13 pm »
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Only thing I ever pulled out of the Salmon river was fish Grin  But sure is nice to know there might be some real goodies there also!!

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 12:56:16 am »
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A friend of mine and I found the remains of a very old stockade line in the subsoil on a hill overlooking the Farmington River about where the Pirates' stockade should have been.  I'd guess whatever treasure was buried was buried deeper and in such a manner that it couldn't be removed by less than a full crew.  Not exactly an Oak Island situation, but not a casual hunt either.  Multiple locations and all of it private property.  Probably a job for a major effort like Bob Ballard or a couple of town governments with some foundation money or a big venture capitalist working with a museum.

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 04:41:43 am »
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Hello All

Thanks for the interesting posts

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