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« on: November 18, 2011, 05:34:53 PM »
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Dead Man’s Hole Treasure
JEFF DAVIS COUNTY – El Muerte Springs, aka Dead Man’s Hole, is located about 27 miles northwest of Fort Davis, Texas, as the crow flies. The watering hole was a well-known frontier stage relay station along the El Paso-San Antonio Trail.
During the 19th century, death seemed to haunt this place and its reputation as an outlaw refuge was well known. It is also the site where a treasure in silver bars and other church treasures is said to be buried.
In 1879, Dead Man’s Hole was the site selected for a meeting between the Estrada gang and a group of four Americans. The Estrada gang consisted of 21 well-seasoned banditos; the Americans were Dr. John Neal, James Hughes, Zwing Hunt and Curly Red, aka Sandy King. Curly Red was the mastermind behind the plan to cross into Mexico for the purpose of robbing the mint at Monterey.
After outfitting themselves for the journey by attacking a military detachment from Fort Davis, the 25 men rode to the Presidio Crossing on the Texas side of the Rio Grande, 80 miles south of Dead Man’s Hole.
There several of the men filled their gunnysacks with bat guano from the bat caves below the crossing. Once this task was complete, the outlaws crossed into Mexico and rode onto Monterrey.
At Monterrey, several gang members made a strong showing as legitimate guano dealers offering their guano at $100 per ton. It was a great cover for the real reason they were there. Meanwhile, Red Curly, Hunt, Hughes, and Dr. Neal bought two kegs of tequila and set off for the Mexican mint.
At the mint the men started talking to a couple of the guards and pretty soon the tequila was being poured. Lighthearted conversation followed as a few more guards joined in. Eventually all 12 mint guards joined the party, then, without warning, the Americans swiftly murdered every one of them.
Immediately the four Americans set to clearing out the mint. An undisclosed number of silver bars were placed into panniers and loaded onto the mules. Once the mint had been emptied, the bad guys robbed a nearby 18th century cathedral of its church treasures.
Long before sunrise the outlaw pack train was well underway heading north. Their plan was to return to Dead Man’s Hole where they’d cache the treasure until the heat was off. They entered Texas through Reagan Canyon and worked their way northwest to the Davis Mountains.
On reaching Dead Man’s Hole, the final phase of the Americans’ plan was executed. All the Mexicans in the Estrada gang were murdered. The Americans moved quickly and divided up a small portion of the hoard for travel money and buried the rest in a 12-foot hole.
The Americans stopped in El Paso before continuing onto Tombstone, Arizona. They supported themselves by pulling a number of robberies and burglaries along the way.
In 1881, they decided to recover a portion of the hoard and move the cache site to another location. They enlisted the help of four Mexican miners they’d met on the road to Dead Man’s Hole.
The story goes that the eight men sunk an 85-foot-deep shaft into solid rock. The Monterrey plunder was then transferred to this hole and it filled in. The last few feet of the hole also served as a common grave for the four Mexican miners whom they’d murdered.
Some of the treasure was divided up among the Americans who then rode onto Silver City, New Mexico.
There they hooked up with a nefarious character known as Russian Bill. Their downfall came after one of the Americans shot and killed a man for refusing to drink with him. A Silver City posse ran the bunch out of town and continued to chase them over much of the Arizona Territory.
One by one the outlaws were run to ground and all were killed except for Hughes, who vanished for sometime. He later turned up tending bar in a saloon and was arrested and sent to prison for his crimes. He never returned to Dead Man’s Hole. To date this treasure remains missing.

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 05:52:21 PM »
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Great story, Seldom!  But how am I supposed to keep up when you post 3 of them at a time???  Enjoyed it anyway!   Detecting

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 11:24:30 PM »
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Seldom,  this one smells worse than bat guano, at least unless someone can come up with some sort of documentation (contemporary newspaper accounts,etc).  These guys would have covered a whole lot of territory (not impossible given how much territory both the Wild Bunch and the James and Younger gang covered), but geographically it doesn't make a lot of sense, especially with the time sequence laid out.   The mint would have been in Monterrey, Neuvo Leon, which is w-a-y southeast of all the other points---possible.    The part that really stinks for me, though, is Ft Davis is pretty far east of the rest of the activity which seems to take place in the El Paso, Tucson, Silver City triangle.   I'd expect the stash to be more centrally located.    BUT, there is an alternative telling of the story that has the Estrada gang robbing the Monterrey smelter, bank and mint and then burying the loot along the old smugglers' trail in the Huachuca mountains  southeast of Tucson near the Arizona, New Mexico, Mexico border (which would be well within the "usual" operating area of the gang as per both versions of the story)

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 09:33:07 AM »
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Good story Seldom. Has a bit of spagetti western to it though. How did four men murder 21 seasoned banditos? Maybe more tequilla?

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2011, 10:22:04 AM »
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LOL yeah this one does smell of spaghetti westerns.




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There have been many incidents in U.S. war history where a handful of men, on both sides, have killed and captured greater numbers than 21!  It can be done and has been many times.  A lot depends on the boldness of the few!   Detecting

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 07:36:59 AM »
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Hey nothing wrong with Spaggetti Westerns?

Long time favorate of mine was The Good, the bad and the Ugly. Grin

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 03:36:22 PM »
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Oh yeah I grew up on em! Smiley That was a favorite for sure, and a fistfull of dollars, for a few dollars more, my name is nobody.... great stuff!

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Cool story. Lot of ground to cover, lol. I like the way I J slipped in My Name is Nobody to the spaghetti westerns, or was it filmed in Italy? lol

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Oh yeah it was a Terrance Hill film, who starred in the Trinity movies. Some pieces were directed by Sergio Leone as well. Even though it had Henry Fonda I'd call it spaggetti

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