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	Need help IDing this medallion « on: June 03, 2008, 02:26:55 pm »

ahoy matey's,
been a while since I've been on this site, but I am back and need
yer help. I found what appears to be a solid copper, maybe not copper, medallion with the likeness of I think the virgin Mary, with
a chalice and red stone atop the chalice. Found detecting a 4' deep
dirt trench in south florida. Appreciate any help in identifying it.
thanks matey's. aargh.

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 06:01:41 am »

It looks like it may be silver and very old. The marks on the back show it was hand made. I would rub a soft cloth on the back and see if any of the black comes off.

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 10:43:13 am »

Not being a catholic or anything, I'm intrigued by the symbolism of the red stone attached above the chalice.

Have you considered taking it by a Catholic or Greek Orthodox authority, maybe on the diocese level or the university level. Perhaps you could seek such a level of contributor on some forums on the net.

I'm curious as to what you learn about your find. Please keep us posted, even tho' this is an older thread.

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 03:31:41 pm »

Hey megan,
I did ID the medallion or rather the owner of my pool store did.
The medallion is of St.Barbera. She is the patron saint of miners,
Field Artillery, of which I served in long ago, my B-day 11.16.62, Bomb disposal, I think also fire fighters and a couple others.

She is also the favord Patron for the Santeria stuff. The medal is quite heavy and scratched gold, but dissoloved under 10 kt acid.

I did actually see one just like it about a month ago in the pet store on a hispanic woman it was probably 18kt, exactly like the one I found. It was kind of spooky.

Did a little hunting in some cuts on the beach today nada.

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 04:34:49 pm »

Thanks for the update quite a unique find

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 10:06:15 pm »

THANKS! Didn't know we miners had a patron saint. Kiss

I'm going to go study up on that now.

RE: yours not being gold and that other lady's being gold...there are rich miners and poor miners, right? And we need all the saintly help we can get!

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 06:31:06 am »

Hey matey's,
Glad u enjoyed the reply.
I agree we can use all the divine help we can get.
There is actually a prayer to St. Anthony to recover stolen or lost objects, which I pray occasionally.
Think I'm gonna try again this morning in the water.
Hollywood Fl.
Shiver me timbers aargh.

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 02:13:06 pm »

the virgin mary with the cup of life (the blood of christ -- thus the red stone) --catholic --spanish most likely -- copper possible -- tarnished silver maybe

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #8 on: July 27, 2009, 03:37:14 pm »

Thats catholic ok one of the virgins fatima,la madona,del carmen but in the end the mother of God and the child God

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	Re: Need help IDing this medallion « Reply #9 on: July 27, 2009, 06:36:49 pm »

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That definately looks like silver... copper only gets a black patina with special chemicals. Try a zinc plate, and a solution of washing soda, dissolved in warm water... put the medallion on the plate and cover with the washing soda.... its non-destructive. Wise

If that is sterling silver, that may be a ruby or precious garnet. Then again, glass is a possibility, try a dichroscope. I dont remember if Rubies or garnets are dichroic, or not. Again, its non distructive, and no need to dis-mount the gem.

Brian AKA goldigger (now WHERE did I put my dichroscope???) Detecting

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