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« on: January 28, 2013, 07:50:19 pm »
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I was tracing an 1826 military road here in central Florida and came across two silvers 1941 and 1943 and this strange brass thing. Anyone have an Idea what it is? Diameter is about 3 inches and it is solid brass with a iron core. Eventhough the iron is nearly rusted away, the brass is in near perfect condition. I can still see the mold marks on it and where it was turned on a lathe. The writing is P.V.C.O.  1829. Huh??  Since the brass is in such good condition and the iron is in such bad condition it is difficult to tell how long it has been in the ground. Gambol  Shocked

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 07:28:25 am »
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The 1829 is probably a part number rather than a date. That is the brass part of a pin back badge. Military personnel, Boy and Girl scouts and most service organizations use them for awards or rank insignia.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 08:51:00 am »
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It look like the center peas  of a lawnmower Blade balancer. Used for sharpening lawnmower blades

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 11:08:26 pm »
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G.D. Its too heavy for part of a badge. Weighs about 3 oz solid brass. I agree the 1829 is probably a part number. I don't think its that old because of the hex shaped bolt through the center. In 1829 most everything was round or square except gun barrels. But that is a heck of a quiescence I was expecting to find a button or round ball or something small and here the first thing I dig says 1829. The detector gods are playing with me.
R.L. could be. I think its a machine part of some kind because of the big hex head on the back side. When I googled P.V.C.O. 1829 I came up with a company that makes cutters for pvco pipe. and one of the advertisements said the cutter cut up to 1829 mm. Only problem is I looked at the cutter and nowhere was there a disc like this. Another search came up with a company in New Jersey that makes valves but I didn't get to a page that identified this thing. After thinking about it I think I looked down inside a fire truck valve and saw a brass plate like this that was raised and lowered by a crank handle.......gambol


 

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 11:56:31 pm »
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looks like a broken hole saw or an electrician's multi size hole saw ?

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 02:48:13 am »
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Congrats on the finds gambol, and good to see you!

The brass thing looks to be possibly a ( Hat emblem or Belt button backing plate) to me and appears to maybe be Military, so check out the inscribed letters at the top....Nice finds mate!

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 09:16:21 am »
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G.D. Its too heavy for part of a badge. Weighs about 3 oz solid brass.

Expand your thinking a bit to belt buckles, breastplates or hat emblems. I didn't mean a collar emblem. Judging by the pictures next to the coins, it could still be a pin back badge.

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 06:49:12 pm »
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Looks like some kind of electrical part to me. Especially with how the corroded connecter looks on one side and the cupping of the plate area on the other.  Possible some center part of a headlight/taillight or some other electrical part with an arc of electricity coming across the front of the plate to the point in front.

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 08:42:29 pm »
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    At 3 inches in diameter and 3 oz, I lean very strongly to it NOT being a  part of Hat Brass.  Size, length vs diameter of stem, concavity of the circular plate all argue against that solution especially when I compare the pictures against all of the hat brass examples for various organizations that I've seen (And Aggie hat brass is very large and very heavy) and/or handled dating back into the latter half of the 19th century.    I'm not saying it can't be --- I'm only saying that is NOT where I'd be looking for answers.   And I'd pretty much eliminate a belt buckle (whether waist or chest) because of the shaft length.   If I had not been told it was made of brass instead of rubber, I'd say it was a polishing or sanding mandrel.    
    Ultimately I think the key to identifying the piece will probably be figuring out what P.V.C.O. stands for.

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here's an example of what I was thinking of when I said sanding mandrel;



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At 3 inches in diameter and 3 oz, I lean very strongly to it NOT being a  part of Hat Brass.

I was thinking breastplate insignia with the cloth rotten away.

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Ultimately I think the key to identifying the piece will probably be figuring out what P.V.C.O. stands for.

Most assuredly.

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